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Waxoyl undercoating

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by theburtman, Sep 22, 2025.

  1. theburtman

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    I have a 2018 F-150 with 25k miles. I want to preserve the underside so as to be able to keep and run it for many more years. Does anyone have experience with Waxoyl undercoating?
     
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    Sorry, no.
    I paid for Woolwax once (on our Jeep Wrangler). Really liked the stuff. :yes:
    I use rattle cans of FluidFilm regularly on my truck and will start on our suv. I need to invest in the kit to spray it from gallons.
     
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    All I can add is that the dump truck I bought in Pa was an Ohio truck and the rust on the rugby dump body is unreal. It is a 21 and looks like it rode behind a salt spreader for 4 years, or maybe it carried a spreader. I’ve been spending hours every weekend fighting rust. I’m starting to believe the only hope is removal, sandblasting and chemical dip. FFS they traded it in because they knew it was stage 4 frigged with rust. If I splashed out for a new truck in the rust belt I believe I’d keep it parked in the winter. Dang rust sucks. WTF happens when you have to replace suspension components, torch everything off?
     
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    Yes. Or, they fall off from rust if left to rot to long. Im not joking.
     
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    It's got to be better than those rubberized under coatings, which (I've been told) actually retain moisture, especially if the cancer has already started. FluidFilm seems to be the most popular choice from people I've talked with. I believe Warner has some industry experience winterizing vehicles, maybe he knows a thing or two about Waxoyl in particular.
     
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    Waxoyl supposedly "completely interrupts corrosion for all types of metals"
     
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    It would cost $849 for my truck. Pretty cheap if it seriously extends it's life.
     
  8. Warner

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    Not familiar with Wacoyl, honestly never heard of it. I have sprayed many vehicles with Fluid Film. It works well, the gallon jug and spray gun isn’t really something you would want to do in your home garage. Rattle cans are more expensive but more manageable. I’d be interested in hearing results if you’re u end up going with it theburtman.
     
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    I'm still researching, but leaning in that direction. This would be applied professionally by the same people that did my spray on bed liner.
     
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    Wowzers!
    At first I thought that was outrageous but after looking it up maybe not. FF is much cheaper but must be re applied yearly anyway.
     
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    The rust belt is no joke and unfortunately the fact that you don’t put a ton of miles on the truck makes it more susceptible to rot.
     
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    This stuff sounds like possibly a one time thing. One report I read says it might need touch up after several years.
     
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    The trade off is I've been retired the entire time I've owned the truck, so I've been able to limit the amount of time it spends in the salt and slop. There is a little surface rust on the frame, but that's about it.
     
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    waxoyl is pretty much the same ( if not the same) as fluid film where they use wool wax for their product.
    Just different name really, with that said no I never used it.
    I have used corrosion X HD which is again similar with corrosion inhibitors added to it. (apply yearly as well in the blasted areas)
    I use it on my rusty 86 and it seems to work ok it isn't 100%.
    Like fluid film and waxoyl I'm sure, they wash out so to speak. So it doesn't hold up well in the wheel wells.
    had some spots on the front fenders and sprayed the heck out of in those areas and again the water blasted it pretty well.
    Where the water isn't blasting though it has held up well and no further rust seen in those areas.
    I don't think I'm going to spend the dough on it again, I had hoped it would stop the rust better.
    Than again Maybe it has, the cab corners are shot and I haven't seen them get any worst.
     
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    The only vehicles I've seen that were crustier than a northern Ohio vehicle were ones from PA and Michigan...maybe NY too.
    And yes, many parts have to be torched off to replace.
    That's why when I bought my superduty I bought one that needed some cosmetic and mechanical work, but had just come from Florida 6 weeks earlier...paint sun baked, but no rust, none! It promptly got oil sprayed...my guy uses a tacky oil, pretty much like bar oil. He charges $60 to do it, and it takes him 10 minutes...including inside the doors, panels, etc. My truck gets done every couple years since I don't put a ton of miles on it, our daily drivers usually get done every November.
    I see there are several places locally that do woolwax for the $200 range...$800+ for a similar product seems very excessive, especially since it will need done every year, or at least every other year.
    IME anything that is sprayed on and "dries" (like undercoating) is nothing but a diet for your wallet. I got scammed by Ziebart as a teen...first and last time too!
    The oil spray I've been having done the last 10 years or so is night and day better!! New rust doesn't happen, and existing is stopped in it's tracks!
    Once the oil is sprayed on it attracts and soaks up dust, which over time makes a "grease" layer...sooo messy when you have to work on the vehicle...but you don't have to cut off rusty bolts/parts, and you actually still have something left worth repairing...not just a crusty pig that seems to evaporate into a pile of dust/rust flakes as soon as you touch it!!
     
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    Haven’t had to but I heard if you need to work under it, a healthy spray at a car wash would ease the mess. I honestly couldn’t imagine wrenching under the Jeep after it was done. And I can’t imagine doing that every year. Maybe my guy sprayed it rather thick. We ended up selling it a few months later.
     
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    Not true. Fluid film has to be reapplied annually. Waxoyl is good for several years after which it might need a touch up.
     
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    I don't worry about it...like I said, much rather deal with the mess than the rust/crust! As a former, and sometimes current, diesel mechanic (among other things) I'm pretty used to having to shower starting out with Gojo or the like to scrub off the first layer...not that they have the market cornered on dirty jobs! :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Sounds like Ziebart/"undercoating"...hard pass from me!
    Water/salt/etc gets under it and then its worse than if nothing was there! Top coating it every couple years does nothing but lighten your wallet and make you "feel good" about it...for a while!
     
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    Maybe with the limited use it gets, my truck and wallet would be better off if I thoroughly rinsed the frame,etc several times per year?