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A thought on "Green Energy", worth the read!

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  1. Hashknife

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    I am a primary tooling vendor for the global leader in advanced coatings (DLC). I see all the wind turbine parts that are getting coated to "help" the components survive.

    I also do work for a major bearing manufacturer. They are also having to coat their bearing races to further reduce friction and harden the wear surfaces. All to increase component longetivity in wind turbines.

    "Green energy ain't green at all"
    Nor is it cheap.

    Dont believe the hype.
     
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    Stay away from the wood stove.
     
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  3. Hashknife

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    One final comment for today.

    If electric/solar/wind/battery power was so great, private money would invest and develop it. Private money likes a return on its investment and so far, private money has found that the "juice ain't worth the squeeze".


    Green energy is funded by the govt. The govt. produces nothing. The senators and congresspeople,and such are all pretty much not smart enough to produce their own private money so they use taxpayer money to invest in things that stand to benefit from said taxpayer money. Senators who own stock in solar and battery companies for example.

    If private money is not involved, it generally is not sustainable on a variety of levels.
     
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    WeldrDave Military Outpost Moderator

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    Thank you, I've said this to many people in the past, the big money people are sitting on the cash and waiting for it to be perfected. It'll be a long time before it is, a looooooog time!
     
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    What "carbon emissions" are causing climate change?
     
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  9. Chaz

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    I agree 100% ^^^

    People invest their time and/or money for profit.. generally.. there are plenty that are solely "agenda driven".. but very few because it's a losing situation.
    :makeitrain":makeitrain"


    I also agree that the Gov't shouldn't spend money it doesn't earn.. but we all know that's a non-starter.. Gov't doesn't earn money.

    But.. I would like research backing this..
    I am not a geologist.. and I understand that science is seldom a certainty.. since we hopefully will continue to learn things we didn't previously know.

    But.. given my current level of knowledge on the subject.. oil is produced from the dead remnants of algae and plankton.. trapped in sedimentary rock deposits.. like shale.. and that the process takes millions of years.

    [Edit].. I'd also like to live in a world where people don't believe oil is actually from dinosaurs.
    :picard:[/Edit]


    Now.. I'm certain algae and plankton are still falling to the bottom of the ocean, and possibly large fresh water bodies.

    But.. is the process really self sustaining compared to usage??

    I'd like documentation to read on that.

    My father never trusted scientists because "what they know changes".. and a fair amount of mistrust of Gov't putting its thumb on the proverbial scale.

    As a math teacher of 20+ years.. he's probably rolling over in his grave to hear that math should be "subjective".. or that it's racist because it focuses on getting the right answer.

    Anyone that believes tripe like that should be forced to hire those students as their "Money managers", and tax consultants.

    This is an unwinnable argument for either side.. because everyone's "truth" seems to be very subjective. We can't agree on anything substantial.

    I'd sure like to live in a world where everyone realized that the earth isn't flat.. or that.. at a minimum can reasonably consider the side of the opposition.

    I am fully prepared and willing to review any proof that the earth is actually flat..

    Don't expect to see any proof.. but I cannot say definitively that it's untrue.

    I'm stuck on this rock like everyone else.. But the "logical" conclusion from what I've read and seen.. It's not flat.

    $.02
     
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  10. yooperdave

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    I'm still trying to get over my shock that "Bruce Haedrich is a self-proclaimed science fiction writer...."


    I mean, really Sherlock :sherlock:, who would have known that there isn't such a thing as talking batteries? :picard:
     
  11. ReelFaster

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    Looks like many of the big auto industry folks are going to hybrid which so many knowledgeable people with no political agenda from jump street advocated for this. You get the best of both worlds, benefits of electric in the inner cities and benefits of the combustible engine on the highways, Win/Win!
     
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    A f'ing men to that
     
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    Hello, and thanks for this interesting article. It makes me think about energy and the way to get it. Green energy is an alternative, but what comes after it? That a question
     
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    One of the best explanations for wind turbines, utterly SHOCKED it was from a TV Show and was allowed to be aired!

     
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    I don't think any one energy resource is the answer to whatever question. All energy sources have pollution of one sort or another 9well, multiple sorts but I'm keeping it simple) involved. I have solar, I have batteries to store solar energy. I also use gas for my SUV and lawn mower and my boiler runs off propane.

    I'm not into solar for a payback, although that will happen - just slowly, so there is no instant gratification (where I live and in my circumstances anyway). I have pre-paid for my electricity for the next 20-25 years and don't have a bill. May seem like a small thing, but as I get closer to retirement, and prices go up and up on everything, it is some peace of mind. If the solar panels give out in 20 years - I don't care, I'm hoping to be dead by then - If I'm not, dollar to donuts I'll be in a nursing home drooling and unaware of anything (family history).

    In my mind, it isn't an either/or thing. I believe in options and redundancy. My heating systems have backups (pellet stoves, mini split, boiler). My electric supply has backups (main or solar). I probably have a backup of some sort for most of my tools - even my flashlights have backups (you'd think I was a collector ;)).
     
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    100% CORRECT!!!