What small saw should I buy?

About 20 thousandths off the built in key. Works well I’ve done at least 25 193’s and 194’s including my own and they’ve been running for years.

 

I wouldn't do that to my saw that's under warranty. Nope. Definitely probably not. I mean, it could happen but I doubt it. Most likely. Maybe. It could, but....

 

I've voided the warranty on every gas hand held piece of ope equipment I've purchased and some non hand held. I've yet to need service at a dealer even long after the warranty would have expired naturally. I live dangerously.

 

I got the new muffler and removed some metal from the flywheel and plastic from carburetor today. This thing rips. Throttle response is instant and power is crazy compared to stock.

 

Warranty, pffff....

That falls into the same category as reading the instructions.

 

Very cool. Its amazing how alive most saw get after a couple easy mods.

 

Yes, it is surprising how much potential is there but just hidden.
This seems to be the pattern with pretty much everything from chainsaws to cars. Not sure if any of these are sold with max power out of the box.
There always seems to be more power hidden somewhere and that is where the fun begins ; find it and then figure out how to let it out.

 

100%. I like the journey as much, if not more, than the destination.

 

The 194’s are nipping at the heals of a stock 201 after mods, this is why I recommend the local guys that were starting their tree services up here buy 2 193’s before and the 194’s now vs one 201 when they ask. This way if they’re on a job and something happens they have a spare and can finish. Not just a saw failure that can happen I tell them possibly gets dropped or run over ect. This can ruin your day many ways not only your out a saw but also may be done for the day on that job.

 

One of my 194s is a ringer for whatever reason, with the mods I'd bet it's actually stronger/faster than a stock 201.

 

I could be wrong but I think an 090 is and was the highest cc chainsaw made
I agree with cold trigger finger about putting a putting a 662 against a 090
You can’t compare a .404 chain to a 3/8 everyone know it takes more power to pull a .404 chain than 3/8 that’s why most of us stick to 3/8 chain

 

Largest one man saw by Stihl and yes .404 takes more but I stand by my thoughts of the 066 being as fast or faster. I had .404 on my 066 with a 36” bar to try it and it didn’t really seem to have that much more issues than a 36” 3/8” bar.

 

Oh so the difference between pulling a 3/8 to a .404 isn’t like I was thinking by the way people talked I thought it would be a big difference in power consumption
Then maybe most people stay with 3/8 because of the price difference and 3/8 could have more options and be cheaper

 

Cheaper more common, yes it does take less power to turn and cuts a narrower kerf. The old saws used .404 pretty often even on small saws like the Stihl 08-08s that was a few different sizes from around 48cc as the 08 up to 61 in the last form of 08s. The old ones in the 60’s had .404 and newer ones had 3/8”. .404 was the small chain years ago next to the 7/16” and 1/2” pitch. The .404 still has benifits over 3/8” like holding an edge better in dirty cutting and it increases your chain speed a little on the older lower rpm saws.
If you have 2 identical saws with the same diameter rim one in .404 and one 3/8” the .404 will have a faster sfpm on the bar vs 3/8” at same engine rpm. So as long as the saw has the power to maintain the same rpm in the cut .404 should cut a little faster. This is all mathematical calculations and there are variables so results will vary.

 

What am I missing here?
Same sprocket, same engine RPM, = same chain speed. (unless a clutch is slipping)

 

Well your same PIN number on sprockets. A 7 pin .404 will have a faster chain speed than a 7 pin 3/8 will because of the larger distance between rivets. Yes the .404 sprocket will be slightly larger just because of rivet spacing on chain. And a 7 pin .325 will be slower than 3/8”.

 

Gotcha

 

Got into some honey locust trees today. Anywhere from 4" to 10". It's downright sporty on the small trees and doesn't feel slow with the bar almost buried. Timing advance and new muffler well worth it.

No ragrets.

 

You now should be set for a good while in the small saw department, kinda funny shop my wife works at has a 194 rear handle now they normally don’t stock that one just the top handle version. I already have a 194t so no need for this one but they are a nice light and actually pretty powerful little saw.