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What small saw should I buy?

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by lukem, Nov 16, 2024.

  1. lukem

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    I'm 6'3"....is 28" enough?
     
  2. HoneyFuzz

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    Don't sugar coat it lol !
    I'm in the camp you are too. I learned alot early on....but don't get into it like I use to. I do enjoy the stand up and buck stuff. I honestly..only watch every 30th video or so now ..might as well unsubscribe I guess.
    Although..i now use longer bars...to stand up and buck when I can....all thanks to him ...and I now have proper gullets on all my chains !

    And some of those vintage hot rod saws he has..my goodness..so cool !
     
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  3. HoneyFuzz

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    Idk...im 5'11"..I usually use a 24"...and it works OK. 28" is gooder! Lol
    For me..anymore than that...the extra length and weight that far away from me...negates the benefits from bending down with a shorter bar. 24" is my sweet spot most days.
     
  4. buZZsaw BRAD

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    Yes the 009L has more cc's than a 201. I've heard of putting an 012 top end in an 009 making it 45cc's. I have a running (albeit very poorly) 009 that I bought dirt cheap to maybe try it someday.
     
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  5. Kevin in Ohio

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    I do know an 011 top end won't work on a 009. Don't ask me how I know. LOL
     
  6. buZZsaw BRAD

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    Read about it on arborsite a few years back and not being an chain saw mechanic ( I mean no disrespect when I say that) I didn't fully comprehend what it meant. I like using them not working on them! :saw:
     
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    Actually the 009,010,011&012 are the same family and I’m pretty sure they should all interchange but if not the 009 would be the odd one because the 10,11&12 all look the same even with the same non available reed and reed plate gaskets still have a parts 011. And some used reeds and gaskets both styles
     
  8. Kevin in Ohio

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    Back when Ebay first started I saw a listing for 3 jugs and 2 NOS Stihl pistons listed for a 009. I bought it as mine had the rubber plug come out between the bar and intake. It had completely packed the case with sawdust and trashed the cyclinder.

    I tore it all down and that is when I noticed the difference with what I had.

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    Here are all 4 of them. The 009 is 3rd from the left with 2 mounting holes. Notice the 2 small tabs between the 2 bigger skirts are not present on the 009. The diameter that fit in the case was also smaller on the 009.

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    Not one to give up, as the seller wouldn't take them back, I cut the 2 small tabs off and and hacked the skirt diameter down. It still hit and looked like I would have to trim some on the case to attempt to see if it would even work.. I gave up and bought a correct one from a dealer as I didn't want to mess up the case for a "maybe".

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    You can see here how much I had to take off.

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    This is one of the boxes it came in. While at the dealer I asked what that number was for and they wrote 010. (I guess I mispoke about the 011) That is what I was going off of. The jug itself says 1120 Stihl on one side and the other sayd Mahle +38 ZD 24. I may have gotten them in the wrong boxes, dealer may be wrong with Box numbers or somthing else as the seller was for sure wrong. All I know is it didn't work.
     
  9. buZZsaw BRAD

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    009, 010, 011, & 012 are all series 1120 saws. That 012 top handle is about the ugliest chainsaw I've ever seen!
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  10. Kevin in Ohio

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    When Stihl made the 090 into an AV, it looked kind of wonky too. This is an all factory original besides the bar.
     
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    That’s the new style av the old original one had a tube across the top
     
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    this is the original style i believe the contra came in an av for awhile like this too
     

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    Actually that bar looks close in age too, the white bars with 3 orange stripes and stihl written in orange or black on it.
     
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    This was one of the last ones made. Township in New York bought 2 of them and barely used them. I got it from them about 15 years ago.
     
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    It's not a Stihl bar but what was on it when I bought it. Guy told me they had one saw with 3 ft and one with a 4ft so they wouldn't have to change. LOL
     
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    Never have seen one in person nor rain one. I like the later generation without the top bar as Lehman mentioned.
     
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    They get the job done but my 660 will cut faster just because the rpm's are higher. The 090 might overtake on something 5 ft or bigger with a larger bar but it would surprise me if it did. Hard to beat rpms. You have to respect them for the era they were in.
     
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    I’d actually be surprised if it wasn’t a Stihl bar sure looks like a 80’s Stihl bar but I may be wrong.
     
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    It says Windsor Dura Tip. I don't believe Stihl sold those on their saws. The guy told me they bought the 4 ft bar as they both came with 3 fts.
     
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    I was wrong just saw the orange on it
     
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