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Cleaned My Liner Today And

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Elderthewelder, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. Elderthewelder

    Elderthewelder

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    got alot more than what i usually do, not sure why, I clean it every year around this time, burn seasoned wood and follow good burning habits.
    When I took the cap off and looked down the liner it looked pretty good to me, no real build up in top section.
    I do however have a gradual bend/angle in the flex liner where it exits my pre fab fireplace and goes up the chase, I spent a few extra minutes in that area with the brush.
    Filled up my ash bucket about 1/3 of the way
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    That doesn't look like a real big stove, but that does look like quite a bit of crud.
    However, it's brownish, so not so bad.
    Maybe try cleaning 1/2 way through the season to see where you're at. Is that a newish liner situation?
     
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    How long is your liner?
     
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    its a real small insert 1.6cuft firebox I believe, installed inside a pre fab z/c fireplace. 15 ft uninsulated 6" liner that is inside of of original z/c double wall pipe
    On my 8th season with this set up,
    When I used to have a sweep clean it I had them do it every other year and never got that much, I have been doing it myself last 4 years or so, usually get roughly half that. was really surprised today at what I got. But like was said above its the real light fluffy brownish stuff, but still freaked me out
     
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    X2 cleaning middle of the heating season. Maybe a fluke, maybe another issue. I think we ALL burned a ton of wood last year after that winter!
     
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    Yeah, that could have had something to do with it.
    Extra wood use, but shouldn't have been double bad with and an extra 1/2 cord.
    Weird. Gotta' be a reason.
     
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    Might want to run a camera down for inspection, just for peace of mind.
     
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    With the color of that, I would not be too concerned. It was a clean burn and that stuff moves out of the chimney easy.
     
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    kinda what I am thinking as well, brush went down the liner with no issues. Like I said above I spent a little extra time where the liner starts to transition up the chase, maybe I was not cleaning it good enough in the past in that area?
     
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    I don't see a black fleck in that stuff, so that's good
     
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    I wouldn't be worried so much as it would make me question why just like you. My guess is like you say, the bend just wasn't cleaned out as well before.
     
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    We had a long and mild burn season last year. I was burning almost into July. Though you didn't use much more wood than normal, a lot of cold starts and low temp fires will make more creo than a non-stop hot fire.

    I had more than usual in my BK too.

    Are you missing a firebrick on the left side of that striker? My goofy coworker has the freestanding version and cuts his wood 12" long to fit N/S in that stove.
     
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    I did have alot of cold starts last year if I remember correctly, another issue is my wife lets the fire go out while I am at work and turns on the NG forced air furnace ( not necessarily a bad thing) and I restart the insert when I come home
    No I am not missing a firebrick, I have to take 2 of them out on the left side in order to get my 1st burn tube out, I dont
    however take the 2nd or 3rd tube out as once I get the first one out I can reach up and vacuum everything I need with the ash vac
    In the past I have scrounged wood cut 12 to 14 inches, works great for N/S loading in the small insert, however I cut most of mine at 16"
     
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    Maybe time to get the wife involved with wood burning too?! I've never seen any good reason not to.
     
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    believe me I've tried
     
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    It's much too complicated.

    :bug:
     
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