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Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by barns1, Sep 5, 2023.

  1. barns1

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    Hello all, Finally, had some cool days to get out to the wood yard. I have been putting the word out for the need for firewood and have access to the rounds in the pictures (first two photos), but I'm not sure what I'm dealing with. Therefore, I need your help in IDing it, is it worthwhile or a pain to split?

    Also, I've been trying to figure out what species tree this is that is in our yard. I've been trying to find out using all the info on this site as well as a tree book I have (last three pictures).

    Thank you guys for being soooo helpful and having a nice attitude towards us newbies.
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  2. Eric Wanderweg

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    The rounds look like elm, the tree looks like black gum. Both are a mother lover to split :)
     
  3. Chud

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    Glossy leaves like Blackgum. Bark looks like Blackgum.
    The rounds look like pine to me. Do you have a fresh split?
     
  4. MikeInMa

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    The ID app calls out shingle oak?

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  5. Eric Wanderweg

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    barns1 On your yard tree, do the branches radiate outward from the trunk at almost perpendicular angles, and the tree have a distinct pyramidal form? If so, I'll stick with black gum. If not, shingle oak is a possibility. If you get a close up of the leaves in question and you see a fine bristle on the tip, it's most likely shingle oak.
     
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    I've never heard of shingle oak
     
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    They're more of a southern/Midwestern tree, although they can survive southern New England winters. A coworker of mine has 2 he planted when a local nursery had a going out of business sale.
     
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    A Blackgum should have some black berries on it right now
     
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    Sorry, I don't have any fresh split yet. Maybe the additional photos may help, looks like three different barks to me, but two for sure. Rounds4.jpg Rounds5.jpg Rounds6.jpg Rounds7.jpg
     
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    If those were mine I would just split them in half and leave them for a year or so. They would burn great for all night burns..
     
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    Thanks. No black berries, but looks like the Shingle Oak photos that MikeInMa posted. Thanks again.
     
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    One thing to note, not all black gum trees produce berries. Only the female trees do.
     
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    Nordic Splitter that's an idea, a lot easier too.
     
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    I researched Persimmon trees, I think they do the same thing. We have a mature Persimmon tree that has never had Persimmons on it during the thirty two years we have lived here.
     
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    The rounds are located very close by, he said I can take a few and try splitting them. If I want them fine, if not no big deal.
     
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    I thought males had the berries...this some sort of trans tree?! :eek:
     
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    Gotta lift up its skirt to find out! :rofl: :lol:
     
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    This was a black gum in encountered a couple years ago. Id say his is shingle oak. IMG_5359.JPG IMG_5357.JPG
     
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