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Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by Zack323, Jun 9, 2023.

  1. jo191145

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    There are different cubic foot calculations used based on length. Haven’t bothered memorizing them as I never plan on using them. 16” or bust.
     
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    When you stack on a pallet, you are crisscrossing a lot which leaves bigger gaps so when a customer goes to stack with all pieces parallel to each other, it will be less volume.
     
  3. sirbuildalot

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    I agree with Joe. I don't see language in the ad that says he tosses it in a 128 cubic foot container loose and charges for a cord.

    The vast majority of firewood sellers are delivering loose thrown wood in big trucks. Very, very few volume sellers stack wood to be delivered. It's just the reality. Time is money. Stacking wood would be a waste of time and pretty inefficient for them. Conveyors are loading the trucks and containers.

    Once you know how many cords are in the bed loose, what's the problem?
     
  4. RCBS

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    There must have been some real knock down drag em outs over firewood in the past seeing how many States have selling Law on the books. If it ever becomes an issue for me, I'll just sring some stretch wrap around the trailer and call it 'packaged', which is exempt so gas stations can make a mint.
     
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    There's lots of things I see people commonly get shorted on that are seldom mentioned. All you hear is firewood though. lol

    I remember a local guy sold bark mulch by the yard as do most places. He told me one bucket was a yard. I kid you not....the bucket he used was literally a standard 5' wide utility bucket on a small B size Kubota. I asked him he was was f'ing nuts and laughed. At best it was 1/4-1/3rd yard.

    I bet no one measures their mulch out to ensure the proper amount....

    One stick of firewood short though....
     
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  6. jo191145

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    im not sure about knock down drag em outs but there’s surely been a lot of lawsuits. Once the courts see these lawsuits they and the legislators are obliged to make laws. Hence the cord or fractions thereof in cubic foot calculations. Hence most states have forbidden the use of ricks or face cords as a legal measurement. Those descriptors use square feet, not cubic. You can have assumptions it’s 16” deep but that’s only an assumption not a legal definition.

    No doubt there’s a lot of unscrupulous firewood sellers out there,,,,,,maybe most in one way or the other. Then there are some buyers that can be cheats too. Stack their cord after burning for a week then complain it’s not a measured cord.
    In a loose thrown cord it’s ten times faster to add a little extra wood to the load than stack it. Takes me five minutes to make 20 splits. Much faster than I could stack a cord of wood. Customer makes out, I make out.
    Bottom line Caveat Emptor.
     
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    The woman once quipped she got shorted in the wood department. I just told her the ruler was probably overheated :)
     
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    What do you mean by criss-crossing? Having a hard time imagining what you're saying. Here's how I stack mine.
     

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    Also known as cribbing. Rather than stack against a tree, post or some type of end support the splits are criss-crossed stacked to support the stack. An old thread of mine.
    Played FHC Cribbage Today!
     
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    Cribbing, a form of torture. I'll do anything to avoid that LOL
     
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    Ok so my comment doesn’t apply to you because your pallets have sides to keep the wood from falling.
     
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    I did mean to ask you, with the long piles of splits, do you find the splits in the middle or bottom of the pile still season?
     
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    Are you asking me? Not a great idea to have multiple stacks rowed tightly together. I try to leave some air space...couple inches or so.
     
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    forgot to answer your question. They still dry. Ill never checked the moisture content but i notice splits near the top and ends are lighter in weight.

    If your stacks get full sun i wouldnt worry as much. Most of mine are shaded and or under cover of a shed.
     
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    I was asking JRider, oops! With the long/tall splits, do you find it changes the drying of the splits lower in the pile? Do you turn them over or just pull from the outer edges as you go?
     
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    oops. His get full all day sun and lots of wind. Perfect set up.
     
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    My windrows are in the middle of a field so it all dries nicely but I will say the pieces on the top do dry faster than the ones that are near the bottom. I have a thick layer of bark and splitter debris built up so no wood is in direct contact with the soil - that would slow drying for sure. As a side note, I have tried my piles within a clearing of the woods about 10-12 years ago and it didn't dry like my windrows do in the field and it wasn't even close.
     
  19. scarps68

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    For all reasons listed is why I stopped buying wood in CT!
     
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