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Options for for Moving Snow When Snowed In?

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  1. wildwest

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    What suggestion do you have?

    We have ONE neighbor that has a truck to plow difficult drifts in my neighborhood, we greatly appreciate his generosity, but we are not his responsibility & he gets stranded in town sometimes too.

    Considering:

    -Plow on 1981 blazer K-5. We will need to get the chain in the 4 speed manual transmission replaced, been running it stretched for a too many years now. Also plow hydraulics are not in the budget so it will be lever or crank for height. But that trusty ol truck rarely gets stuck. Drawback is every used plow we have seen is attached to truck we don't need, or pay for, or fix.

    -Plow on my truck. 2005 Duramax. I rarely drive but not sure I want a plow on it. Dear husband questions stressing out the tranny since this is the only vehicle we own with a 5th wheel hook up for trailers, rv, etc. How hard would it be for to drive it with plow front? Drawback is DH is happy that its low mileage since I dont drive much anymore, and every used plow we have seen is attached to truck we don't need, or pay for, or fix.

    -ATV with plow. Drawbacks are it likely can't move heavy 10' iced over snow drifts (10 feet high, not 10 inches). As well as when -20* it would be too cold to ride 20 miles to town if he found a safe path around the snowdrifts.

    Snow blowers and throwers get damaged after a short time on dirt roads.....

    Thanks for any ideas.
     
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  2. bogydave

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    I'd put a plow on the Duramax, for the few times you may need it.
    Put a snow machine in the back, in case you get stuck :)
     
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  3. rookie1

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    I would put a plow on your truck. Plowing is like anything, its up to the operator how abused the machine gets. I bought a 1998 1/2 ton GMC pickup with a plow and do my drive and neighbors. Truck is old and rusty but Im careful and all is well so far. :)
     
  4. Jack Straw

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    A few questions: How long and wide is your driveway? Has the guy with the plow truck moved the 10' high iced over snow drifts? If I got 10' snow drifts I would want a tractor with a bucket to move that. I don't think my plow truck could clean that up.
     
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    There is no such thing as a chain in an SM465. I'm guessing you mean the transfer case chain. 81 should be a 208. Looking at around $150 cost to repair all said and done.

    The times here were the wind makes a big drift across my driveway (usually 3-4ft high and hard as rock) I've used my skid steer.


    A plow for the old Blazer will be likely easier to find and cheaper as it won't need to be as big or heavy duty. A plow for the Dirtmax, your looking at several grand.

    There are no snow removal contractors? For the $50 or whatever that would be pretty darn cheap if it's just a few times a winter.
     
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    All of the above comments are good imo. Don't know how long the driveway/road is you're plowing, or whether it's a smooth gravel road or full of bad rocks, but my experience tells me that... you really don't have to worry too much about the wear and tear on a good plowtruck (Duramax) as long as you take your time and let the truck do what it has to, a little at a time, in low range. (7-1/2' to 8' plow max width) Get a quick switch type plow, that goes on and off easily, and you can then choose whether to drive with or without it on. Short trips are no big deal with the plow hanging off the front. You'd get used to it. If you run into the occasional ice/frozen snow type storm, hire a loader to come and dig you out... definately do not beat on the plowtruck trying to get thru it. It could cost you 10x what the hired loader/tractor w/bucket would. I have a plow for my ATV. Used it a couple times. Better than a shovel... but it's no snowplow (that's with tracks on the ATV). I'm on my 3rd Fisher plow. First 2 were 8' steel mounted on GMC and a Chev 4x4 pickups with 500lbs weight in the bed and good studded winter tires. My plowing now is done with a 6' steel/plastic Fisher light weight plow. Perfect match for our Wrangler to push last winter. I've got a small JD tractor w/bucket that takes care of the heavy frozen stuff when needed.

    I'll bet we'd all like to see any pics you have of your "battleground" ;) you're going to plow. Being warm and dry while plowing btw, is priceless.
     
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    YES, I meant transfer case chain! Thanks (womanspeak lol)

    Think we will rig the Blazer w plow as you suggest. There are no snow removal contractors that will come out here. I'd like to rally all the homes here to pool our resources to hire a plow for all of us to make it worth the trip, but 1/2 the homes here are "summer" homes, a few are abandoned, and a few are self sufficient like said neighbor.

    Is a skid steer like a bobcat?
     
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    Looking to the right of entrance, garage this way behind the flag pole.

    I don't have a pic of the road being snowed over, it was down the road a few blocks.
     
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    The neighbor does have a big yellow tractor with a bucket! You are probably right, the whole neighborhood was depending on him for the TRACTOR, not the plow.
     
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    That's hardcore there. Looks like not much windbreaks. Pics show how bad it could get. :thumbs:
     
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    Yes on the skidsteer, a bobcat is a brand of skidsteer.

    On outfitting the K5, are you going to be able to find parts
    for the older model truck you have? You'll need push plates
    and head gear. Then hydraulics and electronics (which may not be
    needed if your doing your own property only).
    My guess is those items may be hard to come by since
    everything has changed over the years to minute mount. Insurance
    companies spearheaded getting the headgear off the trucks
    due to the damage they caused in accidents.
     
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  12. Jack Straw

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    Maybe you could do some research on snow fences. Around here people put up snow fences to prevent drifts, but I'm not sure how they work.
     
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    Previous residence all the neighbors voluntarily chipped in every month year round to hire out road grading and plowing. I didn't realize how convenient that was! november 2013 026.JPG
     
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    I don't know about other brands but I know for sure Fisher plows still carries some parts for plows that are 40+ years old. I would expect it to be the case for the bigger names in plows.

    My Dad has a Fisher plow on his 79 Chev K10, the plow is circa early 1970s. It's run off a belt driven pump and the plow lift frame stays on the truck. Pre electric pump or minute mount.
    That setup is better for the older trucks with the 60ish amp alternators.



    Yes skid steer = Bobcat.

    I would not just buy one JUST for moving snow in a driveway, they are not cheap. The one I have, an S250 was about $40k new.
     
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    Thats a good option, maybe having a skid steer available for other tasks would make this option more likely
     
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    Dear husband had a 79 K10 when we met, I loved that tank but could not see above the dashboard while holding the clutch in :eek:

    A lot of options, thank you! Its the driveway as well as 2+ miles of dirt road to get to county maintained pavement. Too bad we spent so much money renting skid steers over the years at my previous residence, that would have added up to a hefty down payment to purchase one now. My husband found a newer used one with a heater and windshield wipers, but it was way out of our budget.

    I planned on padding the savings account this winter for more remodeling next summer...If this winter is as bad as last we will be looking at one of the options in this thread instead beautifying the house, though it will not be 40K :bug:.

    My husband is fortunate to have flexibility at work with bad weather, but we will have find a solution at some point.
     
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    Wood heated driveway :D
     
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    Wow. You've got a h*ll of a distance to plow don't you? And, as said, drifting must be a constant issue. Guess I'd have more than a couple guys on deck for the times you need a tractor/loader to push thru and/or push back drifts... but you're prolly gonna be OK with the plow set-up you described. Good luck.
     
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    Tractor with cab and a loader on the front. Not terribly expensive on the used market. Bonus it is useful all year around. No truck or suv is going to move a 10ft drift. I know I plow all winter. I keep a compact tractor around for big drifts, but compact tractors are pricy. Sometimes I just have to do it with a walk behind snowblower and chisel my way through it. Regular full sized farm tractors are a better buy with a wide front end not the tricycle type.
     
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    They do work very nicely. Sad that our county no longer uses them. They used to put them up in the spots that drift heavy. But since they got the grader the the big side blade, they don't want to do much hand labor.
     
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