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Honey Locust and ?? Tree ID Help

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  1. Zack323

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    The city dump came through today with a large Ash tree, Honey Locust and an unknown. All I know, it's all dense and twice the weight of my normal Pine. Thanks for the help in advance! Going back Monday to pull the remaining honey locust and ash.

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    The last picture looks like Siberian elm to me. Some end grain shots on the first 3 would help.
     
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    The last two photos are the side and end grain of the same log.
     
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    Can’t get much better than honey locust and ash! Ditto siberian elm on the last 2 pix. I personally, would grab the elm too assuming you have a hydro splitter.
     
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    I am going to grab everything I can. I need to take a chain with me to pull out several logs that are at the bottom of brush. I've been using an electric splitter and will either rent a hydro for a day or purchase one over the winter. I have about 4 cords of Ash waiting.
     
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    Nice, that’s a top shelf score for the moutain west! I’ve burnt quite a bit of siberian elm out here and it reminds me of silver maple for heat output but coals up a bit more. Really not that bad aside from splitting it and the smell when wet.

    Honey locust is next level which I’ve had a few scores of over the years. Save those for last load before bedtime.
     
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    Nice scrounge… Love me some Honey Locuy…Probably a three year drying on that species though…
     
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    In Wyoming, I'm curious what it will take to dry. Our relative humidity is 10% most days and it's always windy
     
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    Maybe two... I've burnt some two year old (two summers), it was dry... but at three years it was much better... I could see Its possible in the right layout and the right conditions...
     
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    Jutt, what's it taking time wise to dry Honey Locust or Siberian Elm for you?
     
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    Not sure on the last, but have seen black locust have darker heartwood like that. Bark not quite a match though. Nice grab there Zack! :thumbs: Wish i could score more HL around here.
     
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    Thank you Brad. I'd say the end grain is very dark, but has a dark yellow tint to it. More dense than the honey locust in feeling. I'll go back Monday and grab what I can that's left.
     
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    This is what I’ve observed over the years stacking single split width for max sun and wind exposure using my Delmhorst J-lite MM and the little chart for species/temp offsets. Plus dryness through weight change, sound and burn performance, all correlate with the meter’s MC.

    All kinds of variables but chitt seasons extremely fast in general in our semi-arid climate due to the hot, very dry and sunny summers. Plus you got your constant winds up there in WY that’s like a blast furnace during the summer lol

    In general, everything I’ve CSS has seasoned 20% or less in 2-4 months. Including larger gambel oak splits, elm, cottonwood and even honey locust. Lodgepole, ponderosa and the like are always on the lower end of that range.

    Again, single width splits, usually stacked in between trees with full exposure to sun/wind.

    I grew up in SW Virginia. The difference between these climates is night and day and plays a huge role in seasoning time.

    Here’s some lodgepole I cut down on the property for fire mitigation in July. Live, healthy, wet trees. CSS at the end of July. Pic was taken on 10/8. Temp/species offset puts it 18% MC.
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