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I believe it to be Siberian Elm

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  1. JimBear

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    My uncle thinks it’s Red Elm but I disagree. What do you folks think.

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  2. MikeInMa

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    The ID app on my phone calls out American Elm.
     
  3. Eric Wanderweg

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    The red elms have a very coarse feel to the leaves, almost like 150 grit sandpaper. The one in my backyard has leaves that vary in size from about what yours are to almost 6” long. American leaves are softer, almost fuzzy. Siberian elms have extra small leaves, usually smaller than what yours is showing. Hypotheses #3: it’s a hybrid between red and Siberian, which happens naturally where reds and Siberians grow in close proximity to each other.
    Here’s my red elm. It’s only a small sprig of a tree so I’m no help with the bark identification.
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  4. JimBear

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    The leaves pictured are the largest ones, most are around 1”-1.5”. Which is why I was thunking Siberian Elm. I didn’t check out the leaf feel because as I was kneeling down to cut a tree I ran a thorn about 3/4” in to my knee o_O & my mobility was greatly reducing the longer I was there. I did manage to set some aside for cutting up later. The stuff I put in the brush pile can just help with global warming…

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    As I was trying to finish up, I snagged my pickup door with a long chunk of Osage & folded it around to about 120* open. :headbang:

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    I am hoping some ibuprofen will help with this knee.
     
  5. Chvymn99

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    Id say Red or American elm... what does it smell like split. Siberian elm is usually what I'd call pizz elm and normally has a white streak running down one side with smaller leaves. Red elm (i believe) smells like black licorise ....
     
  6. Eric Wanderweg

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    Based on the description of small leaves I’ll agree with your Siberian elm verdict. Red elm has the largest leaves of the 3 species mentioned. I can see the white streak Chvymn99 was talking about, on the right side of this one crotch piece. The Siberian elm at the bottom of my road has the same exact streak too. American elm has a layered bark that has different shades of brown/gray/tan. I’m not seeing that in the cross section of the end cut, although a closeup would help.
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  7. Backwoods Savage

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    Maybe we need to ask someone from Siberia? :whistle:
     
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    I am not an elm specialist. As a young man with boundless energy, I once hand split, with wedges and a sledge hammer, a 30" elm we took down at my parents' place. It was a long summer...........
     
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    That $@#%$ about the door. Backing into a tree with an open tailgate my worst wooding accident. Almost ready for a new one. Were you able to get the door working properly?

    God bless ibuprofen. I have an 800mg scrip i take as needed.
     
  11. JimBear

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    The door is junk, I am looking around today for a replacement. I am hoping that I didn’t tweak the pillar also.
     
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    My farmer neighbor has a mid 90s Dodge 2500 that the door latch won't stay closed due to how rusty the cab is...he rides around kinda sorta holding it closed! No idea how it's not been red tagged...everybody notices it, the cops surely do too!
     
  13. JimBear

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    I got this variety pack bucked up this morning. There are what appears to me to be two distinct varieties in this load. It will sit in rounds for at least a year most likely 2 before I attempt to do any splitting.

    The track loader made loading those big rounds a nice strain free experience.
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  14. Cash Larue

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    Not sure which type of elm. But I love elm. Burns great! Nice grab!