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Apple seeds sprouting inside just bought apples

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  1. Screwloose

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    Just bought apples yesterday and the first one I ate I found this.
    Never saw this before.
    Thinking about potting them but haven't a clue yet how to go about it.
     
  2. Eric VW

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    Get a pot. Get some dirt in the pot. Probably don’t need to bury the seed husk much more than 1/2” or so?

    Wonder if Firewood Bandit will chime in?
     
  3. Eric Wanderweg

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    I've never seen that before either. I know apple seeds need to be cold stratified before they sprout, so I'm guessing your apples were in cold storage for a period before making their way to you. The seeds thought they had gone through winter and that it was now spring outside :)
     
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    It will most likely grow, but don't plan on getting the same type apple that you bought from the store. It's almost certainly a hybrid.
    Either way, I'd plant them just to see.

    I've never seen an apple do that, but I've seen tomatoes do it. Onions and potatoes sprout often.
     
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    Hey Screwloose maybe those aren't sprouts! Maybe they're tapeworms! I wonder if you missed one? Ya didn't eat any of that apple did ya? :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:


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    That’s cool!

    I may have mentioned this before. But we have a family cabin above Woodland Park, CO. The altitude is similar to mine. About 9,000 feet. There is a 15-20 foot tall apple tree growing 5 feet off the dirt road about 5 minutes from our cabin. Mixed right in with the Huge Doug Firs and Ponderosa Pines. It even produces apples, which the deer and elk hammer pretty hard. It’s a pretty remote area. I’m guessing someone threw an apple core out the window of their vehicle several years ago. You’d never think at that altitude, an apple tree would grow out of the decomposed granite soil we have here. I always salute that little apple tree when I drive by it.

    :salute::salute::salute:
     
  7. Eric Wanderweg

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    Cool! Stranger yet, usually apples need another apple tree nearby to pollinate it, as many varieties of them aren’t self pollinating. I wonder if there’s another one nearby (it could even be a crabapple)
     
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    Good point! I hadn’t even thought of that. There are honey bees up there. Maybe a really energetic bee carried pollen up the mountain from the town below?
     
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    At first I thought that they were worms !!
     
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    Since I have 2 sprouts from the same apple would they pollinate each other?
     
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    Depends more on their real gender and not how they identify…
    :picard:
    :rofl: :lol:
     
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    :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol: :thumbs:

    Can't fool mother nature......
     
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    All apple trees are clones of one another created from scion wood grafted onto a variety of rootstocks.

    Scion wood is the variety of the tree.

    Rootstock determines all the growth characteristics of how the tree will develop from very small to almost as large as a seedling.
    Rootstocks for Apple | WSU Tree Fruit | Washington State University

    It is anybody's guess what will happen if you plant a seed from an apple. It will not be the same as the variety originally since it is unknown what fertilized it.

    Every fall I go with my mentor evaluating his experimental apples, he has literally hundreds and hundreds of trees. He has brought 2 to national market, River Belle and Pizazz.
    Look at the video, he is in it:
    Pazazz Apple.
     
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    I planted seeds from a fuji apple about 12 years ago still no fruit but has grown to be a nice sized tree.

    Seeds are kinda like kids often they have a lot of traits similar to parents but can be very different also. Commercial apple trees are like tomatoes a delicate balance with the ability harvest, store and ship being more important than taste and texture.
     
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    You statement is partially true.

    When we go evaluating the experimental apples I once asked, "what are we looking for"? The answer was simple. "an apple that is better than any apple you have ever had before". That is is pretty high bar.

    My friend has a variety that Washington state growers have been looking at for 5 years but haven't committed to.

    Some of the things they look at:
    Firmness, aka crunch
    sweetness
    How does it brown or not brown after cutting
    Is is susceptible to environmental
    pathogens
    Storage
    Easy to handle
     
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    Yes
     
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    All commercial apple trees are clones, right? {edit: I’m no apple expert, and highly recommended anyone not familiar with Firewood Bandit ‘s work with apples to read his great thread. }

    Michael Pollen’s book The Botany of Desire is a nice intro to apple tree genetics. I was just speaking with a coworker yesterday about genomic selection of apples and grapes, and this morning heard a radio piece on psychedelics that Pollan began exploring in that book.
     
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    Thanks for the kind words.

    I suppose I could make a thread and pull up all the old ones on the rejuvenation of my orchard. It was a big project and looking back don't know if I would do it again. It spanned 2015 through 2018.

    Anyway, here are a few pics I took this week, as I will start picking next week. I was moving hoses around irrigating this day.

    The almost ripe ones are Zestar and Premier Honeycrisp (DAS10) which is the early one. DSCF0016.JPG DSCF0001.JPG DSCF0002.JPG DSCF0011.JPG DSCF0007.JPG DSCF0005.JPG DSCF0008.JPG DSCF0013.JPG DSCF0014.JPG DSCF0015.JPG
     
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    I had that happen to me last Summer. I potted them and ended up with 6 that made it to Fall. But they didn't make it thru Winter. Apparently many trees DO NOT like being in pots in the Winter and need to be heeled into the ground somehow. (pot and all apparently works) A nursery near me uses sand. Heeled in supposedly helps the roots from freezing solid. Or solid too long. I dunno - ask a farmer.
    Many orchards use crabapple trees for pollination, so you could get a crabapple tree or whatever the bees/moths helped with. You never know. I think it might be Gala (some apple in New Zealand) that came up where they threw some apples out on a farm and they are cloning millions of them to this day.