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This isn't good for EV's

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  1. yooperdave

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    You should have asked yourself "are we going to wake up tomorrow to even higher gasoline prices so one party can force through their agenda?" That would have been a bit more accurate.

    No one has the right to make choices or push their agenda onto me by forced compliance. Might work for you, but not this guy. Like I tried to point out in an earlier post........if you did serve in the military, you might have a deeper sense of the freedoms we are instilled with. And also have the ability to see when those freedoms are being infringed upon. But then, didn't hunter also serve and look how that turned out!

    There are just way too many limitations with an ev. period. Admit it and then you too will "get it".

    Why would you compare EV's to cell phones, bag phones, old computers? Thats just silly! Remember when you made that comment? :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Ever ask yourself just why EV's don't come with the ability to charge themselves? Get it? Imagine how convenient that would be! Maybe then we would be getting somewhere!
     
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    Below is my issue with certain Ev vehicles.... and them being forced on us by regulating gasoline vehicles and petroleum out of existence. Thats not an ev problem though, that's a political party problem. Anyway, enjoy this vid. It concretes my position on EV trucks for the foreseeable future.



    Our truck is almost exclusively used to pull our camper on vacations which all are at least 150 miles away but usually much more. We also use it to pull a utility trailer as needed or home depot runs that the bed is needed. That situation in that video will reduce the usefulness of that truck to mainly people using a truck as a car with a bed. I'm in no way anti EV as stated before. In fact I have no doubt we will have one for my wife within 10 years strictly for economic reasons only. We currently don't need a new vehicle though and one car gets 35-36 average mpg, one gets 31-32 mpg and the truck, unloaded gets 24-25 mpg and 17-19.5 mpg towing our camper with all our gear depending on the terrain and wind. Our oldest is a 2009 with around 100,000 miles and the truck is a 2020 with 7200 miles currently. Us buying an EV car all depends on initial cost. She can charge for free at work. Her drive is 50 miles round trip. No more oil changes and a big one for her is pumping gas, especially in the winter. As far as the truck goes I see no replacement for trucks used for towing anytime in the future.
     
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    Like regenerative braking ?
     
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    You mean like solar panels on the roof, or an alternator driven by one of the wheel hubs so that it charges off kinetic energy while you’re rolling down the road? I’ve been wondering that for years myself. But what do I know? I’m just a Neanderthal that asks too many questions.
     
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    Well, that would be a negative net gain...nothing makes more power than it uses (or else we would have a perpetual motion machine...but nobody has pulled that off, yet!)
    Newman's energy machine - Wikipedia
     
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    Understood, but still it would extend the range of said vehicle, no? How about an alternator integrated onto each wheel hub, plus a couple pinwheel-windmill things spinning on the roof, on top of PV panels located on various body components? :)
     
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    Thanks for that link, I never heard of that before. Maybe it's because I'm a tinfoil hat loon, but from the sound of it that guy got railroaded by da gub and all their cronies, like (Nikola) Tesla did.
     
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    This is absolutely true!
     
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    Yeah, like solar panels on the roof of the vehicle that can be incorporated into the paint scheme of the vehicle? A higher efficiency type of a panel that has not yet been developed?

    EV's just may be a good idea but forcing it upon the general populace is always going to be met with resistance and is definitely the wrong approach.
     
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    They're a (somewhat) great way to substitute coal and natural gas for gasoline and diesel for transport. Politicize and pick your poison.
     
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    Or instead of f gas lines at the pumps that take a whole 5 minutes on the high side to fill charging lines that take how long to fill?
     
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    It’s going to be fine Dave, sometime this fall the narrative is going to have run it’s coarse. A huge kick to the nutsack happened already today on that agenda :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    Well, the F150 in that video above took 45 minutes to get to 75%...and that last 25% takes "longer" according to them...
     
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    I saw that as well. Eggcellent.
     
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    Imagine if that were winter. The range would be 50 miles if you were lucky. Or if that trailer was the max it could tow. I think its rated at 11,000 pounds. That trailer was 6000.
     
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    We need to focus on capturing and storing lightening .....
     
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    Yeah there is a news person who bought a chitty ev and documented her drive halfway across the country. Said it took a couple extra days because charging stations were either in use or broken or not charging to full capacity. Cost her extra hotel expenses. I’ll stick with my diesel truck. I can fill my aux tank and drive to Florida nonstop from home and halfway back with no worries. Just at the current prices 105 gallons isn’t fun but that is going to change and some will cry!
     
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    Yeah I was surprised to hear that the F150 in the video cost $29 to fill 75%...I dunno what I was expecting, but it was certainly less than that...at the low range they got while towing, and the fact that it was only 75%, really wouldn't be that much cheaper than gas, while towing...especially at more historical gas/diesel fuel prices! There probably would be some maintenance savings along the way...at least until the battery needs replaced, or some other major thing once out of warranty...but maybe not...I heard today that Ford will not sell an F150, said once the lease is over the truck goes back to Ford...wonder what they have up their sleeves?
     
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    They're still an alternative for rich city folk to be seen in .
    Tires wear faster due to battery weight. Many are sports and/or low rolling resistance tires which, again, aren't cheap. Same with suspension/steering parts and drive train. Then there's maintenance on the battery coolant systems .They're not as "maintenance-free" as their fans are willing to admit to.
     
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