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Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by firecracker_77, Aug 23, 2014.

  1. nate

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    I cut as low as possible so there is the most wood on the log, plus no tall stumps.

    Going back after to cut the stump short means first wasted money since there is less wood on the log. Then wasted time and fuel to cut the stump short. But like I said in the other post "when possible". Situations ditact.

    Never heard the saying from Fred Weyerhaeuser "cut em low boys"?
     
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    Not necessarily so Nate.

    If I want a 16" firelog then what is wrong with leaving 16" of stump. There will be no wasted time nor money because it will leave the same amount of stump as one would by cutting it low in the first place. End result is the same with no tall stumps and the same amount of firewood.

    In addition, I do not want to be that low when felling a tree.
     
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    Situations dictate. I was just making a point that cutting low isn't "wrong".

    If I was out cutting stove length rounds off felled trees right in the woods then it wouldn't really matter if I cut the tree at 8" from the ground or waist high.
    But I don't.

    The log gets hauled out and that chunk would be left behind. Not worth the trouble to skid it out normally.

    The hardest trees I have to deal with with hand felling is usually small stuff, like 8-10" DBH. They are almost too small to properly notch/cut and you can't usually use wedges either.

    Some woods around here that is all that is there.
     
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    Doesn't matter if the felling cut is made at ground level or waist height, the tree can still come after you. My question is what was the saw operator doing that close to the tree as it was falling? You should have an escape plan (not too hard if it's a "yard" tree) and when it starts falling, GTFO.

    Glad nobody was seriously hurt.
     
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    Point well taken, sorry for your friend, but relieved no one lost or broke anything!

    I hired temporary labor a few years ago to move a few tons of dirt and salvage the 20' seasoned logs from it. They said dear husbands chain saw worked fine while cutting the logs small enough to carry up a steep slope. Dear husband got home and was astonished it even worked, and that no one got hurt...... The chain at that point was loose been severely dulled! He was thankful it was through a temp agency that insured and bonded because the saw must have been dangerous after the only a few cuts in the dirt. "Oops, sorry, I wont do that again"
     
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    I was the family member doing the sawing. The main contributor to my injury was the fact that when the tree started falling I didn't move away from the tree. It was falling exactly as it should have, and I saw no reason to move because it was falling away from me. When it hit the ground there was a three foot branch pointing down and to the side from the main trunk which caused the log to bounce and flop over, right onto my leg. I was extremely lucky it didn't do damage pain pills couldn't fix, still swollen and very bruised but otherwise fine. It was just complacency that got me. I have cut hundreds of trees, nearly all off them way larger and more difficult. I looked at the tree as an easy drop, I was in a hurry to other things besides fall trees, and just let my guard down. If anything I got a refresher course in the fact that working with saws and trees is dangerous work and must be treated accordingly. Comfort breeds complacency, complacency leads to serious accidents and property damage. I'm just glad it was me that was hurt and no ground crew, and that my injuries weren't serious. It was a good wake up call, both for me and those present, and it will make me a safer worker going forward.
     
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    We're all glad to hear you weren't hurt worse 451. It's funny how we can get a little too comfortable sometimes huh? Always remember that even a small tree has the power and energy to take you out. I might not get away from small trees quickly like i do when felling the big ones but i at least make a slow getaway :tree:. Hope your foot and shin heal up soon!
     
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    OUCH.. Glad he didn't get hurt worse.

    Another thought... If you dont bring all your own saws, at least bring files. If need be you can make it a teaching moment and show 'em how to properly sharpen their chain. (the old give a fish, teach to fish thing....)
     
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    The person's 290 we were using is older with bad eyes, and his standards are lower than ours on that sort of a deal. Won't ever go to a job without my tools.
     
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    Welcome to the forum Fahrenheit 451.

    This is great for you to come onto the forum and "fess up" on what happened. What you have stated is excellent and hopefully some will read and learn from it. To me, I think the biggest key here is that you stated you were in a hurry to do other things and just simply got complacent. Most times we have found that the two worst things that cause accidents are hurrying or working when tired. You've cut hundreds of trees so you knew better and thankfully you received a wake-up call that was not too severe. Hope the bruises heal quickly for you.
     
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    No Worries, glad you mending!! I can relate. Dear husband is vigilant with safety, he locks doors, counsels fellow hunters on safe gun carrying, gives me safety glasses, and told my not to touch his chainsaw... I on the otherhand let my guard down all the time, like the time I was lucky the skill saw I used then immediatly sat on my thigh had a blade guard that flipped back just in time:emb:
     
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    Crap happens to all of us, even when trying to be safe.

    The other day I had a log roll off a pile while I was cutting them to ~20ft lengths. It didn't move but maybe a foot, but I was in the way and it caught my left shin. It did similar as the photo in this thread. Ripped the skin and some meat right off a 5" section, and scuffed up some more. I had chaps and jeans on too. I honestly didn't even stop working, just shrugged it off. Well until a bit later when I felt water leaking down my leg and realized it was blood.
     
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    Yikes!!!!
     
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    I've dropped hundreds and hundreds of trees and as a rule I usually make the drop cut at/near waist level. It's alot easier to see exactly what is going on when making the cut. You can always go back and make a nice finish cut on the stump afterwords. I also use the bore cut method more often because you "pre - dictate" your hingewood.....which in felling trees, is the most important piece of the whole puzzle. I'm very glad to have you here 451, and very glad you are OK.
     
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