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  1. jo191145

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    While Brad and I took a small jaunt around my area he saw this and said he was stumped. That piqued my curiosity. Don’t hear that often :)
    What say the crowd?
    Has short catkins on it if that helps. Dried now. Tried to get a decent pic of them but I’m short.

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  2. Eric Wanderweg

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    I wonder if that’s a cucumber magnolia? I think TurboDiesel might know better than I would.
     
  3. Ikeholt

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    Looks like Black alder.
     
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    Look for these around the tree
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    He said it has catkins in the original post. That would rule out gum and magnolia.
     
  9. buZZsaw BRAD

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    looking at his pics carefully it appears as though those catkins are stuck in the limbs. There were a lot of oaks around too.
     
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    This was a black gum i asked the forum about a year ago. I knew what it was at the time. IMG_5359.JPG IMG_5357.JPG
     
  11. jo191145

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    I thought the catkins may have just been stuck there too. From what I could discern they’re not. Part of the tree. While I’m looking at the bottom of the leaves I didn’t get the impression of thick glossy leaves. Theyre thin and transparent. Maybe time of year? Young?
    I’ll have to wander over tomorrow / today and see if I can pull a branch down. Get a top pic and make 100% sure those catkins grew in place.
     
  12. Eric Wanderweg

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    The black gum trees that I've seen in the wild have a very distinct branching structure. They come out from the trunk at almost perfectly perpendicular angles. The ones I saw last week still had small flowers on them too.
     
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    Certainly appears to be in the gum family but the leaves aren't dark green and glossy......hmmmm
     
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    The pics i posted were from mid July last year. Maybe the leaves have to mature more? Variations among the species?
     
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    Yes, I’ll get some pics of size differences.
     
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    It appears new growth and shaded trees are not so thick and glossy
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    And this is smaller Blackgum leaves
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    Ok, went back and tore a branch off. Tops of the leaves do have shine but nothing like a waxy holly bush or anything. Rather fragile.
    Oh yeah and the catkins were just draped over the branches, not part of the tree.

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    The alternate leaf arrangement is correct
     
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