Thoughts on this?

What if this reprehensible “druggie” is a decorated veteran?

Are they still not your problem?
Do they still deserve to die?
Do they still get your “scarlet letter” treatment?

Ole tree killer has got me on “ignore”. Maybe someone else who “liked” these posts would like to chime in!

 

Yes....still don't need it to be my problem. Everyone has their own demons.

 

Unfortunately like it or not, people that are addicted to drugs (no matter how it happened- prescribed pain management drug use that spiraled out of control, casual use that escalated, self medicating from PTSD, etc) eventually become everyone’s problem. An active addict will rob his own family, his community, they’ll stop at nothing for their next fix, up to and including homicide. Threat of prison time, loss of income, family or even their own life doesn’t factor into their decision to score the next bag, pill, or bottle. It’s as bad to watch from the sidelines as it is to live it personally. There’s also a fine line between helping someone and enabling them. I completely understand the attitude of leaving a person in that state of existence to their own devices. I’ve also seen plenty of people get resurrected from the trash heap of society and become well again. There’s plenty of literature out there for families seeking to cope with an active addict, and volumes more written for an addict that wants off the merry go round. There are established fellowships out there with decades of proven results that have worked for people the WANT to get and stay clean/sober. As far as the gub funding this stuff goes… that’s a policy sparsely available in the US and still in its infancy. Individual mileage may vary.

 

In my opinion, from 30 years in law enforcement is that out society has two major problems. Number #1 is that the percentage of people that tell the truth on anything is shrinking to close to 0%. All lies cause problems - Big lies, big problems; small lies, small problems. Number #2 is that the percentage of people that feel that no consequence should be placed on their actions is shrinking to close to 0%.

These programs are not helping people. They are funneling tax payer money to a group pretending to help people ( the lie ). If theses government functions wanted to help these addicted people, they would try to eliminate all drug use, not provide a safe space. Instead, they are just taking the government funding to expand their programs/funding. In addition, every person needs consequences placed on them for their actions. With the legalization of some drugs and the approval of other drug use ( like the example here) the addict starts to understand there are no consequences to any actions. Then physical/property crimes starts to increase. When people ask me my thoughts on the legalization of cannabis, I tell them it's the worse idea in history. I don't care about the physical effects on the body of the drug, I am upset with the eroding of the consequences. I think the same way about gambling. I can tell you that gambling ( especially online) causes more problems for a person and their family than you can imagine.

As long as our society allows all people to have no or less consequences for their actions and are allowed to be untruthful, we will have major problems.

 

The voters must be protected from themselves

 

im not surprised hes got you on ignore!!!

 

veterans have support groups and benefits that these deadbeats these programs are serving aren't privy to.

 

Glad I could be the source of a bright spot in your day Skeet. Luv you too Brutha.

I think I outgrew ignoring in Kindergarten.

 

On this I'd disagree.

AA,NA are well existing groups that are open to anyone that walks in the door.

Intake settings aren't necessarily easier for veterans, as the need easily exceeds bedspace.

That said, this doesn't make sense to me, as even if the addict has to "meet with" a "counselor", it likely won't change their behavior.

It makes as much sense as sending out a lifeguard to save a person trying to commit suicide by drowning themself.

I'm a heavy drinker, likely an alcoholic, but I still make it to work every day, capable of performing my job, and paying my bills.

I pay for my 'safe space' to exercise my free rights.

$.02

 

I feel for anyone with pain that can't be managed, and I know doctors throw the rx pain meds at ppl. You would think by now with science and technology, they could come up with methods besides drugs that could isolate and treat most sources of pain....

As with anything, people may need help with their issues, but they have to want to help themselves to get anywhere. If they turn to involving society and others with their issues, such as stealing, robbing, assaulting, harming etc etc, that's when their issues need to be addressed and fixed. Not saying they don't need this before then, but I don't care if you take an elephants worth of anything, keep it to yourself. Start involving and harming others, and I don't care what a person is or how they got there, they need to be stopped. It seems around here, the system(s) aren't helping either side of the equation, so I'm certain things will have to get elevated to reach some form of resolution.....and we know where that may go.

 

WTH ? Got this ad/coupon in my mail today . Took me a bit to figure out what it was for . I think cigarette companies can’t advertise like this but pot stores can ?

Someone said “we can send cruise missiles into Mexico to target the drug cartels . They will never know it was us .” I don’t think that’s the answer either . Lmao

 

The mold that produces these drug conditions needs to be destroyed. But first the lowlifes in positions of power have to be rooted out and replaced by people of good will.All the institutions are run by those who make great sums of money by manufacturing dysfunctions on every level.

 

I was watching a documentary on meth about a month ago. The drug of choice many of these safe drug use programs are steered at.
Wouldn’t you know the pipes that government funds are supplying are the same type used for (Hot Railing). As the documentary put it hot railing is such a dangerous practice only the most die hard users will do it and mostly to prove their meth is safe for sale to others.
So let’s make it safe by providing the pipes used in the most dangerous method of use. Or to put it differently, I’m from the government and I’m here to help.

 

A wiseman once said something along the lines of "The more you subsidize something, the more you get". IMO this is exactly what they're aiming for. Making $ with the sale and distribution and making $ with the "treatment" and "programs" while the native population gets destroyed and every community is affected.

 

Yup, no honorable intent there for sure.

 

Is the leadership in this country trying to destroy it !

 

Ive done quiet a number of services for those who have died from an overdose.

Folks from all walks of life, races, and socioeconomic situations. Some from broken families, others solid families. They have been young, old, vets, professionals, prostitutes, minister's kids, kids of drug dealers, bums, former prom queen, homeless, etc...
Some have accidently got addicted, others knew straight away what they were getting into.

A few over dosed before but were saved by narcan. Then their luck ran out.

Personally I dont agree with these "safe" drug use areas. I believe you are enabling the problem, treating drug use as its no big deal and acceptable. As the government continues to push for easier access to drugs and less severe sentencing for use, the problem will only get worse.

Do I believe someone should be locked up 25 years for an ounce of wacky weed? No.
But dealers, suppliers, "friends" who provided the dope and person died from it, should be punished severly.

As for those who have narcan parties or are saved by it, I personally believe they should enforce the 3 strike rule. 3 times is all you get. Harsh? Maybe. But like Steven R Colclasure said above, actions have consequences.