Location of new IS [Progress] stove

Thanks everyone getting the progress to be delivered in March/April

 

I'd love to have a progress!

 

Start planning on how to get it into the house and set up. Do you have a hearth to put it on? Depending on how the outside of your house is set up, you may/will need some "dollies" to get it on a roll, and/or some very big/strong men to help you. It's a heavy stove. Maybe folks on here can tell you what parts you can easily take off to decrease the weight.

Congrats. it's a fabulous stove.

 

The PH is a bit of a beast to install. It will come on a pallet base, with the legs and ash pan removed. You can remove the door, top stones and top casting, and the inside cast bottom grate.
Once in place you need to levitate it to install the legs, and then the ash pan and shield easily bolt in place. We put it up on blocks to install the legs.

 

Well stove will arrive this week and now have to figure out how to get it from the truck bed into the house. 820lbs?????? Can the progress hybrid be partially disassembled to help with weight?

 

Well I just read the posts above mine….

 

Roll Or Kari Dollies.
We've rented them from a local tool rental a few times. BrianK and i have moved a couple stoves each and my safe was 900#.

 

Considering what propane cost per gallon will be this winter, just saving one 'tank' (which really is termed a bottle) can save a bundle if, you have the wood on property to burn. If you have to buy the wood, then, not so much. Keep in mind the labor and equipment involved in cutting, splitting stacking (to dry) and handling (getting it in the house, and to a lesser degree, the bug factor. I remember back when we heated with wood, having wood indoors in the warmth always brought out the critters...lol

I might add that while we have the acreage with wood on it here at the farm, we don't combust wood for heat for a couple reasons. Most importantly, we are old (72 and 71), so the labor involved isn't something I really want to do anymore. Back in the day we did heat with wood (many years ago) but now we heat with 2 biomass stoves, one in the house on the first floor in the greatroom and one in the shop. Because of where we are and because I farm, field corn is readily available and so are wood pellets and for us, both are an easy to deal with heating medium. I buy my wood pellets on full 2000 pound skids and I keep my dried field corn in a grain tank and take it out by the bucket full from the bottom. I keep 4, 30 gallon plastic refuse cans on the back deck, full of a corn and pellet mix and fill the house stove from them, something my wife can easily handle herself. I keep an additional 2 cans in the shop for the stove in there. No chimney required for either. They both direct vent through 4" stainless lined galvanized venting to the outside and both draw air from the outside as well so no using the heated air inside for combustion.

My storm damage limbs I roast in the burn pile and if I need to take down a tree, I give the wood away, one of my buddies sells firewood to the local campgrounds and he is always happy to take any wood I have to bring down Cut it into saw logs and load it on his trailer and he deals with it from then on out and he usually tosses me a few bucks for it as well.

If I had to buy wood (like you are), I'd consider alternatives like a biomass stove. I own 4 propane bottles and I keep them all at 85%. We have a Bryant Plus 90 condensing furnace in the basement for when it gets so cold and windy, the biomass stoves cannot keep up, but we inly have it as a backup.

With a biomass stove, you still have upkeep, like emptying the ash pan and cleaning it inside but for us, it's the logical alternative to burning chuck wood and you live in corn country as well, so dried (15% RM or less) field corn should be readily available as well as processed wood pellets.

Just something to consider, especially if you are buying the wood to burn.

We find the biomass stoves to be much more convenient to deal with, not as convenient as a propane fired central furnace of course bit way more easily dealt with than a chunk wood burner and an added benefit is the biomass stoves are much more efficient. Most today are in the 85% efficiency range and they produce very little creosote (if running properly) and no smoke either. With mine, you can smell the wood pellets and corn burning, but there is no visible smoke at all.

Reason I bring this up is, there are alternatives to chunk wood stoves that may fit your scenario better and there are also coal stoves, many today come with automatic stokers and most today burn rice coal and like wood pellets, it comes in convenient to handle and load bags.

Like I stated, if I had to purchase the wood to burn, I'd consider the alternatives. I don't but still prefer biomass stoves over wood stoves.

 

Interesting pellet stove user history. Seems that the OP is asking for help in this thread for getting his PH (already purchased) moved into his house. Not really sure what the relevance of the electric pellet stove theory is at this juncture

hadowajp it may be possible to remove the loading door at least, if not some firebrick to lesson the load while transporting your new PH inside. Where you at in WI?

 

My mom and my sister both heat their homes from a stove in the basement.
mom's basement is not finished, sister's house is .
Neither house has a heat barrier between the basement and first floor.

That doesn't mean all houses can be heated (solely nor to identical comfort levels) from the basement.
Nor does it mean no houses can be heated from the basement if they did not have that success.

YMMV based on the fact not all basements are created equal. Same with stove/chimney installs.

Earth sheltering taking advantage of earth thermal mass has existed for as long as man has been building shelters.

 

Just offering some alternatives, nothing more. I do know if I had to buy my wood for heat, I'd be looking at alternatives. I don't and I still heat with biomass.

Buying firewood isn't going to get any less expensive than it is today and will probably increase in cost, like everything else is.

 

I pre bought 5 ton of hardwood pellets early this year so I'm all good for now. Interestingly, the store I buy my pellets from ran out of general stock in early march and never got any more in. Between the 5 ton and the 4 ton of corn I need to pick up yet, we should be good. Next year however, who knows.

 

I have a stove in the basement so the pipes won't freeze and one on the first floor.I only run one until the real cold sets in.In your neck of the woods two stove would probably keep the propane off all winter.Also check out Idaho energy logs to supplement your wood pile.They burn hotter than cordwood and burn for a long time.

 

I installed a bio mass stove in the shop this spring because the shop is my biggest consumer of propane PEX in floor heat is nice but it takes a lot of BTU's to get it up to temperature and maintain it, I don't expect it to keep it toasty in there, all I'm looking for is around 40 or so. The shop slab is 12" thick with sheet insulation underneath and in the sides but a 40 x 40 slab that thick is quite a heat sink when it's cold outside. Has to be that thick to support the machine tools properly.

 

corncob, after this year I will more likely than not provide my own wood. Wood is also cheap here even though I’m sure corn is more cost effective. I’ll see if I just wish to keep buying after getting my initial 4-8 cords all stocked (happy we just finished up the wood shed). I thought the proper term for bulk propane storage was cylinder? I have never heard the term bottle for anything over bbq size.

moresnow i am just north of Prescott on the st croix so west central wi

 

i brought my PH in the house and installed it myself. 4 wheel heavy duty antique flat dolly. Sometimes the house makes it easy. My pickup tailgate is close to level with the front porch. One 8” rise to get in the front door. Used a partial sheet of 3/4” plywood for that with blocking underneath. Took some grunting to get it up the ramp but I managed. Across the living room floor and on a flush hearth. Can’t get much easier than that.

You say it will arrive,,,,delivered? One hard rule with heavy weights and handwork. Never lower it down. You’ll have to pick it back up.

 

Yes, for wood stoves, I can’t recommend the Roll or Kari dollies highly enough. They’re usually available at rental shops and are often referred to as “organ dollies” or “piano dollies.”

I used them several times to move wood stoves in and out of the house. (I was a beta tester for the Ideal Steel.)

We also moved several huge filing cabinets full of patient charts when we had new sewer lines installed in my office. I don’t know what they weighed but they were extremely heavy.