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Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by jrider, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. jrider

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    I bought an older Stihl 038 magnum off a neighbor who was moving a few years ago and wouldn’t need it anymore. Today, the muffler rusted off. Aside from being ridiculously loud, is there any reason I shouldn’t/can’t run it like this?
     

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  2. JB Sawman

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    Two strokes rely on some back pressure to make them run correctly it could actually make it run lean and have less power
     
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    This ^ ^ ^
    I wouldn't run it like that
     
  4. Chud

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    Seems like a good opportunity to open or remove that box.
     
  5. Ron T

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    My thought as well.
     
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    I have more than one vintage saw that has what's called a stack "muffler". Its nothing more than an extension of the exhaust port with some large slits to keep things out. You can see the piston plainly through the end.
     
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    So next question, would running a tank or two through the saw as it is cause any damage?
     
  8. Ron T

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    I wouldn't risk leaning it out.
     
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    This is factory?
    I'm sure the saw(s) have been jetted/tuned to be ran that way...gotta be freakin loud too! :eek:
     
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    No it will not hurt it and I see the diffuser is still in place. Then there is the danger of a fire hazard with it open like that.
    I would try and find another muffler for it if it were mine.
     
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    Not if you know how to tune it properly.
     
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    Yes. Many old saws were like that.
     
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    The old saws also ran as much as 16:1 mix also the oils were not as good but it was tough to run lean with those heavy mixes and there scavenging system was not near as good but I know from racing Karts a expansion chamber gave the engines way more torque and power as opposed to just a turn out on the engine I ran mac101b engines and it made a huge difference JB
     
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    Lean air fuel ratio and lean oil to gas ratio are two different things. You can lean out an engine and ruin it on any
    oil / gas ratio. In fact as you go up in oil content, ie, 16:1 vs 32:1, you have leaned out the air / fuel ratio by displacement of some of the fuel with oil. You would then need to richen the jets to account for this. I have several saws that require 16:1 according to the manuals. They all get the same oil mix as my new saws.
     
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    I'll snap a picture of one of them for you.
     
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    What?
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    :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Definitely that lol.
     
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    This is my Remington SL-9 with its stack "muffler". I have a later model with a box muffler. The unit pictured is the loudest saw I own currently.

    IMG_20201002_195931404~3.jpg
     
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    If anyone coming to Denny's GTG interested in running a dinosaur like this I can bring it and a couple others I have.
     
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