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Why do you prefer your smoke dragon?

Discussion in 'Non-EPA Woodstoves and Fireplaces' started by Hatchetdancer, Oct 27, 2021.

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  1. SD Steve

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    I think I want the secondary stove in the video.
     
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    Ours cracked with a loud bang when it was pretty new. I remember my dad saying "I wondered how long that would take". It's been cracked close to 40 years and we own a welding shop !
     
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    Yes!!! Also, Even Fisher back in the day said in their advertisements you could burn all your trash, And people did. Everything... :eek::headbang:
     
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  4. Rowerwet

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    In my case it came with the house. However I was noticing wood consumption was up year over year. The doors weren't sealing and some welds had cracked.
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    893FE39E-5909-4F49-B386-02C8F888015B.jpeg replaced it with this also non EPA certified temp wood.
    It's incredibly efficient compared to the old Fisher, already seeing the firewood ring on the porch go almost two days between refilling. The downdraft design is unique and holds the fire forever. Just throwing in a couple splits and opening the draft gets the fire hot in no time.
     
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    I grew up with a fisher mama keeping us warm. I heated with a mama bear up till 4 years ago. I switched to a ideal steel, love the old stoves but I haven’t looked back. 1 cord less wood used a year and I only tend to the fire twice a day. I missed pokin the fire at first but the only thing I do between loading is bump the air up a little.
     
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  6. WeldrDave

    WeldrDave Military Outpost Moderator

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    I must have mine tweeked well, Even in the Coldest winters, (here) I burn 4 to 5 cord. Last year I didn't burn a cord. Now, this year We've had some cool and cold days and I burned most of my uglies already, It was an old IBC tote cage 275gal.
    We had a cold wind the last 2 nights and I went through about 6 big splits a day/24hours.
     
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    Sounds to me it is more operator error than the stove's fault I have several customers with owb and they burn dry wood and they really do not smoke when burning I have been looking at putting one in hopefully next year I can swing it JB
     
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    I tried an older stove and it burned without smoke but each day on first burn the chimney would clean the soot out from the previous day. Do others see the same? Something a 2020 stove doesn't do...if I had a pre epa stove I would add secondary tunes and if necessary better baffle.
     
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    Let’s be honest here any stove will make some smoke on reload before the load gets fired up and the secondary’s or cat are going. “Smoke dragon” is a mode of operation not necessarily a trait of any stove type. I know a few people that struggle with epa stoves because they are stuck in the old school cut in spring and burn in fall mentality.one you can see the smoke before you get to his house. Lol! Mention trying dryer wood is like saying the earth isn’t flat…

    My stove is old but it’s not a smoke dragon!
     
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    Mine as well, I'm burning a 1980 Fisher and you very rarely see smoke from my chimney. I burn only wood that's at least 3+ years old. My last moisture check on some of my stuff was 5% :yes: The "Smoke Dragon" designation is a myth to the world because of the way people burned in the past, It really had nothing to do with the stove.
     
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    Some of my wood is 4 years cut, split, stacked, and top covered and it’s 18% still, Dave.

    Must be this damp valley.
     
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    I do not cover my "Dry" wood until I put it in the wood shed for the winter and that's only to keep snow and rain off of it, and then it's only covered by the roof. There has been a lot of debate about to cover, not to cover etc... I can only say this and my experience. We get HOT humid days here in the summer. You want moisture evaporation and air flow. My opinion, covering traps moisture to some degree. We had a Looooooooooooooong debate on that subject on this forum several years ago and it did no good but some simple science raigns true here; Wood wicks moisture out when cut, not in "unless" it is sitting directly in water. We had a former member who said wrapping your wood piles in plastic and creating a sweat box/solar effect would make them dry faster! :rofl: :lol:o_O:confused: Well, what does the inside of a hot shower look like after youve been in there a awhile? The mirror and every part of the room has condensation on it, your not drying anything. My piles are exposed to the air, loosly stacked for air flow and bake in the summer sun! :yes: Also, different woods dry faster of slower depending on the species. I found Maples and other less dense woods dry faster then say, Oaks and Hickories. I have had Oak that was 12 to 15% after 4 years and the Maples were about 8 to 10% Maples are some of my prime source around here. I get many "storm blow overs" :)
     
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