So at what point when Tesla limits everything except the vehicle from driving, does this bother you? All those now unusable features, with that big touchscreen dash that barely has any functionality, no FSD, no sentry, no summon, etc, in addition to no access to Tesla's charging system( that makes the car usable aside from slow home charging rendering it not much more than a commuter/ errand running car). These are all problems that other brands don't have.
So you don't like big brother Google, but you'll deal with big brother Elon? These are two incongruous things.
You are right about the insurance, been shopping around the last day or so, sent the old company packing, I don't know what their issue is with EVs but they don't like to insure them.
What you are saying here is a classic form of A leads to Z, and Z is really bad. So both A and Z are both bad so we can't do A or Z. It's a classic form of manipulation. There is no evidence that Tesla will take anything away from its owners. Tesla giving out free supercharging for people who recommend their friends to buy a Tesla, is like a car manufacturer giving out free gasoline for recommending to their friends to buy one of their cars. What auto manufacturer does that? None of them. Now you're downplaying commuter/ errand running cars? what type of cars do you think people need? All I need is a car to get me back and forth to work/ run errands. Also keep in mind. that if you want to drive across country and your free supercharging is turned off, you can still pay for supercharging, and its cheaper than buying gasoline. I feel like there is some other reason you're against Tesla's or EV's in general, if there is some other reason that is perhaps against the forum rules or something, please feel free to PM me I'd be happy to listen to anything you have to say. And I'm pretty sure you'd be surprised to learn I'm likely on the same side as you!! Welp, that's enough internet for the night.
Wouldsplitter check out class action lawsuit Canada has against Tesla and then figure Horkn lives in Wisconsin and then add in common sense batteries die in cold faster.. it’s math not magic
I'm not against EV's or Tesla's really. I don't like the way elon does a number of things, but I'm not averse to Tesla's or any ev. It's still early in EV timeline and there's a lot more cons than pros to EV right now. I'm not a fan of the crazy Tesla fans that can't see the reality because they don't understand it. Pros and cons to literally everything.
Here's some reading about why. Why Car Insurance for Electric Vehicles Costs More - NerdWallet Why electric cars cost more to insure - Green Flag
No one in my state even sells, much less services Tesla - a huge drawback. I can take my cars to several places within 2-3 miles of my house (and that is in a small town). One of those is an authorized dealer/service center/body shop for the vehicles I currently have (and their prices are very reasonable - a shock, I know). I never even thought about it, but just googled and the only place to buy a new Tesla (unless one uses auto trader or other auto sites) is in MA. There is a body shop about 30 miles from me in NH, but for actual service it's either the Seacoast (1.5 hours one way) or back to MA again.
This is only partly true. The batteries are indeed toxic and can be expensive to dispose of, however the majority of the components of the batteries are however recyclable and the toxins are contained in a nice neat little package as opposed to being spewen into the environment a'la the toxins in the exhaust of and ICE. I know this is meant to be funny and I can see the humor and the irony in it...but the oil sands sites are way more numerous and what you don't see is what's going on underground. In addition the components in he battery can also be recycled and the energy produced by oil is "one and done" as opposed to the energy produced by the battery is infinite as long as the sun is shining so the PV panels can recharge them.
DaveGunter not partially true here, charging $4,750 to drop off a Prius at our local dump. I understand that recycling options are available but not here. Requires batteries to be transported; which requires a CDL with haz mat certificate. Vermont is a green state (Actually Green Mtn state) keeping our environment clean a good thing BUT a future cost to be aware of. Usually scrap cars bring about $150 in cash depending on metal prices.
Here it is. It's over the paint Tesla uses. It's a legit complaint honestly. Tesla Faces Class-Action Suit Due To Paint Issues On Model 3 In Quebec
How so? the batteries are recyclable. https://cleanriver.com/how-to-safely-dispose-recycle-lithium-ion-batteries/ Your neighborhood The Home Depot Store has partnered with Call2Recycle, a non-profit battery recycling program. You can recycle rechargeable batteries free by placing them in Call2Recycle bins at the store. Any rechargeable battery, including lithium batteries or a cellphone battery. How to Dispose of Batteries
Agreed 100% From your links. One big reason for the extra cost is that the electric cars are worth more. The base prices of the electric vehicles we studied averaged 70% more than those for their gas siblings (excluding the Smart Fortwo, whose electric version is available only for lease). The more a car is worth, the more an insurance company has to pay if it’s totaled or stolen. A separate NerdWallet study found that an electric vehicle can cost substantially less than a gas vehicle over a five-year period, taking into account buying and operating costs. As this technology becomes more mainstream, drivers can expect this pressure on insurance premiums to reduce,
Batteries are free to recycle to individuals but companies have topay to get recycled. I re- checked with source they have a work around now basically you pay scrap yard 150 dollars and they pull them out and you bring to recycling its Vermont and their rules to Protect environment. Which is a good thing, until you let a politician write the law
I just called four auto recycling places two in Maine one in New Hampshire one in Vermont all four said the same thing if I drive in with a 2009 Prius and a title they will pay me $200
A battery for a model 3 is ~16k that's a remanufactured battery too. It Costs Nearly $16,000 to Replace a Tesla Model 3 Battery Pack They do wear out. Most before 200k. A friend of my burgers needed to replace a battery on his Prius. He didn't because it cost too much I think it was around 4k plus labor. Instead he traded it in on a different vehicle. I just looked up a model s 85 kw battery. You can also get them in 100kw. The 85kw battery is 45,000 dollars! Yes, that's an $80,000 car, but still.
