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The hard old days

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  1. B.Brown

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    image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg These pictures are of the guys who drove the logs down the rivers in northern Idah. My wife's dad uncle and grandpa are seen here. Her grandpa was the log drive foreman. This was extremely dangerous work to say the least! Sorry for the double pictures. That's my wifes grand dad on the log, ''rowing'', her dad is second from the left on the front row, her uncle is 4th from the left bottom row, Her grand dad is in the middle with his hand on her uncles shoulder, in the middle of the ''crew''. These guys were tough, tough men, and risked their lives daily. I really miss my father in law, he was without a doubt a real ONE OF A KIND type of guy. We had a lot of great times together, i'll never ever forget him. Being the foreman's son's only meant one thing, he EXPECTED more, and better work, out of them than he did the other men in the crew.
     
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    This is a picture of the boat and the crew. along with their names. That's my wifes grand dad on the left with his foot on the gunnel of the boat, he was the log drive foreman for 40 yrs and never lost a man.
     
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    image.jpeg And one more with a "log jam on the river, notice the rapids behind them. Bottom group, 4th from left wife's dad, Second group 1st on the left wife's grand dad, and her uncle 3rd from left.
     
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    Great pics, thanks for sharing!!!

    Men were definitely a different breed back then. Tough as nails.

    Nowadays we have guys pretending to be lumberjacks drinking their craft beer, throwing axes in bars with their man buns, skinny jeans, and flannel shirts, who either don't work or work at a computer job.
     
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    in the old days men worked hard,today the young kids want money on a plate.
     
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    Nowadays we have guys pretending to be women!!! :picard:

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    Reverse nepotism I learned that when my father was Boy Scout leader. They all got 3 matches I got 1 and went first!
     
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    because they worked it off,and worked hard;
     
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    It also wasn't processed sugar coated garbage we buy today
     
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    I say this as I drink a can of pop and eat a bag of chips
     
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    There are some phthalates, used in some plastics ( like water bottles) , that mimic estrogen.
     
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    And..... ??????

    "Phthalates are not synthetic hormones, nor do they mimic estrogen or testosterone. The potential effects of phthalates on the production of estrogens and androgens have been well studied and are the subject of numerous reviews."

     
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    Yes, what the study paid for the chemistry society that represents the plastics industry "found" is that phthalates don't mimic estrogen per se, but limit/block the formation of testosterone. They conveniently leave that part out. As if 'lack of maleness' is not a concern. They also avoid mentioning BPA which does mimic estrogen.
    Both BPA and phthalates are additives in some plastics that are of concern in medical circles. The petrochemical markets not so much.
     
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    Ever wonder if the guys back then thought the same as we do, that their parents generation were tougher than they were?
    I love seeing old photos like that, thanks for sharing!!
    Was looking at a few old farming pictures from when my grandpa farmed, dang!! Looked like a tough way to make a living! ( compared to now)
     
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    They had to be tough as nails, the ones that weren't died of pneumonia and/or tuberculosis. A lot of kids didn't make it to 16 as childhood mortality was much higher. and not just from Jarts and riding in the back of pickups.
     
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    The essence of Americana there! Hard work made this country and much of it was a good life.
     
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    Dunno about the "all were skinny" part. It helps to have a little insulation on your bones when working out in the cold all day. Survival even depended on having a little heft. And some muscle with reserves to support them. I rather doubt there were all that many "skinny" people logging at all.
    A nice healthy combination of body mass and muscle mass. Human working machines.
    What very few were was obese, to the point of not being healthy or capable of working.
     
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    I've been watching videos on youtube on logging from the west coast, Quebec and Maine. All were very interesting and a lot of hard work. Working the boats, setting dynamite and jumping logs to clear jams was pretty crazy. Men were men.