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Seasoned firewood

Discussion in 'The Wood Market' started by Stanley, Sep 21, 2020.

  1. farmer steve

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  2. chris

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    All these ads for seasoned firewood- my question is what kind of seasoning. salt and pepper/ A1 steak sauce ect. because they sure have not been sitting on it for 2 or more years.
     
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  3. NortheastAl

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    I’ve found that most call seasoned wood at about a year of seasoning. I have one guy I stick with because he has wood that’s at least a year and a half out in the weather. The best way to check is to split a piece and check the fresh side with a moisture meter. 20% is fully seasoned. Many of these guys don’t even know it takes different times for each species.
     
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  4. NortheastAl

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    That stuff they sell at the gas station has been kin dried to kill off the insects so it can be brought across state lines. I had a cord of kiln dried once and it burn hot and fast. Almost had an over fire the first time I burned it. I had the presence of mind to baby sit the first burn just to see what happened. Vey little moisture in that wood. Much happier with a known source of seasoned wood.

    I think you did good on the log loads. Your labor saved you about $1200 a load. Nothing to sneeze at.
     
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    Funny NortheastAl in the state to your east. The LIE (low income emergency) heat program to use firewood it has to de documented to less than 18% MC. They always use kiln dried. On really cold winters people run out of heat February about same time fund runs out of $$:picard:
     
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  6. NortheastAl

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    I didn’t know a program like that even existed. Wish all my wood was close to 18Since the EAB has been killing ash trees there’s been a lot of kiln dried wood. I live near Connecticut and at the state line they have a sign That says not to transport firewood unless it is heat treated. I think the heat treat for insects is it has to be a certain amount of time and a specific temp. True kiln dried gets the heat for a longer time.
     
  7. Rich L

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    Ya I'm tempted too.
    OK where is this place.I'll order now.
     
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    Here in Wisconsin, to be "certified" and to cross state lines, it has to be kiln dried so the internal temperature is over 140* F for 60 minutes, or stored on premises for at least 2 years.



    I am happy with he logs too. Very easily accessed. I do enjoy cutting in the woods, it is just so much more work then getting a log delivered.
     
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  11. billb3

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    black cherry : $300-350/cord
    "seasoned" hardwood: $250/cord <-- this can be a two cord price in the fine print
    eastern white pine: $100-150/cord.


    "seasoned" is sometimes a whopping 2.5 seasons seasoned
     
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    Last 2 customers we had paid $275/cord for oak, they loaded and hauled it 40+ miles back to their house, 1st guy had to make 4 trips in a mid size truck, 2nd guy made 3 trips in F150. Said they enjoyed the drive and were retired. I didn't argue with them.
     
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    Most pro firewood sellers don't bother with "seasoned".
    Sticking short pins in a split tells nothing except for that split and the few mm of the wood.
    And most serious burners buying CSD firewood know from experience to get it green early enough ( late winter/early spring) to stack and season it.
    All the sellers we know here sell only green CSD....selling ~ $260./cord.
    The sellers advertising for KD seasoned for + $300.'s a cord.
     
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    I just got a half cord of green oak rounds, getting oak is rare around here. Chopped and seasoned one year it'll sell quick at $300 plus $60 for delivery. Yes, I have found the pins on a moisture meter to be pretty unreliable. Pad mode on my moisture meter works pretty well though.
     
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    I just tossed 2 cords of 1 season oak/ash mix for $600
     
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    Nice to see the :makeitrain"coming in, instead of going out.
     
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  17. Biddleman

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    Prices more in my locale of PA. I'm east of York. I say $200 for mixed hardwood on avg. And $300.00+ for Oak. That's if you can find anyone who will sell full cords and not by the pickup truck bed.
     
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    Exactly. It's 300 a cord here, and that's not even delivered. That's extra.
     
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    They are only seasoned with minutes. Not much more than that. You can smell how freshly split they are driving by them. :loco: :crazy:

    That's "seasoning" to me. If you use the past tense, "seasoned" that means it's done seasoning. :whistle:

    Also, how can wood be considered seasoned, if a season of the year had not gone by with the wood being split? Wouldn't "seasoned" imply that more than 1 season has passed since the wood was processed?? :picard:


    Ok, I'm done. :salute:
     
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    No Horkn, you are not "done"; you are FINISHED.
    A fav of D.I.'s at Camp Elgin: " Turkeys are done. You sir, are finished."
    Grammar nazi out.