$$ tuneup a saw

That will most likely not happen in our lives.

 

I know everyone's gotta make a living but 80 bucks is highway robbery for a saw tune (unless there's a happy ending of course ). You could get yourself a tach and do it that way. I think I paid 30 bucks for mine. Makes H/L tuning a breeze. Get your service manual online and it will have all of the RPM settings. Then its just a matter of setting your idle and then your L RPM (from manual) and then winding out your saw and setting your H RPM (from manual). The only thing you really need to be concerned about is not splitting hairs and trying to get your H right at the max RPM. I'll usually go about 300-400 below max RPM just to be safe for grenading my saw. Takes about 5 minutes including warming up my saw.

 

Speak for yourself!

I intend to outlive the crappy technology of todays gas chainsaws. If I never have to deal with a 2 stroke carb and stinky fuel that dissolves the fuel lines and membranes, it'll be too soon.

I bet the battery tech makes gas chainsaws obsolete in less than 5 years. It's happening faster than we know.

 

Listen, the small engine makers could have worked harder to replace carbs with EFI and used materials that didn't fail in E10. But, just as the car makers are stuck in the 20th century, so are they. Stick with them if you like. I'm out.

 

I've been around battery tools all my life. I haven't seen a "major" improvement in some time. Yeah, they've got better over the years, but not that much better...
I can buy a lot of gas for the price of a battery!

 

Until they can make a saw that can live all day on a couple of batteries and will cut 20" plus logs all day, I'm out.

 

I can see the battery saws having a place but I don't see them replacing gas saws anytime soon. I have tried to include battery tools at my shop and so far they have not been able to stand up. As far as fuel lines being affected that has been pretty well taken care of. EFI vs carb on a small high speed engine I'll take a carb any day especially at the low cost of replacement. I have EFI on my miller trailblazer and can say with no doubt that the quantity of failure prone parts is astonishing.

 

So......ya got any nasty obsolete earth killing saws yer peddling ?

 

No worrys. I will stick with them because I have the knowledge about how they work and how to take care of them. I have plenty of battery operated tools and unless that battery is constantly sitting in a battery charger they do not work worth a crap in cold weather. I can let my gas chainsaw sit for 2 years and it will start up and work just fine. The next time I have to cut through a 30" elm I will be reaching for a saw that can actually do the job and not some toy. By the way which land fill do you toss your batteries in. How much of a carbon foot print did it take to make that battery and how much of a carbon foot print does it take to keep it charged up. Next thing you know you will be telling us burning firewood is evil.

 

You got me all wrong.

Some firewood burning is pretty bad. Wet wood in old outside boilers is pretty horrible at times.

Dry wood in modern stoves is great. I provide 95+% of my own heat this way. It's good for the planet.

The jerks that make their trucks spew black smoke on purpose, are evil.

I've just spent 30+ years dealing with crappy small gas engines. And I'm a passable mechanic.

Some folks are happy with a fat, ugly spouse. If the spouse is sweet, and a good cook, I get it.

But if they are nasty, lazy, and expensive, no thanks. That's small gas engines today.

Cling to the dinosaur juice in busted-azz old tech if you want. I use it, in probably at least a dozen tools, and I truly dislike it. Because it stinks, is unhealthy to be around, is only moderately reliable, and keeps the Sheiks in their harems and wmd's. No thanks.

Find a Tesla to test drive sometime. When you get done with that, tell me that I'm wrong. American made.

And there are already passable recycling facilities for the batteries. They still have some work to do on the logistics, but that will get worked out.

And finally, please remember we are all friends here.

 

Our batteries and electricity don't finance the middle East, and endless wars, which you are paying for, through your taxes. Yes, there has been a lot of crappy battery tech in the last 10 years, but do you remember how crappy ICE's were in their first 20 years? Not unless you are over 100 years old.

We are just at the beginning. It's not up to snuff yet, I'll admit. But if you keep an open mind, and will still be interested in the next 5-10 years, it will be.

 

I certainly don't mean any offense and don't want to bushy up anyone's tail.

 

I dont care where its made when the cost is 35-150,000 dollars. (Or 1.5 - 4x the cost of an equivalent)

Where do you think electric comes from?
I'll answer for you...coal, natural gas, and OIL... (7.1% comes from wind and solar)
AND, if everyone in your neighborhood buys an electric car, figure on the grid going down more often.

The actual percentage of smoke spewing trucks is very low. Most are not doing that.
I will agree, diesel smoke stinks to high heaven!

 

I think I will add my 2 cents to this foray as a shop owner and operator 80.00 to tune a saw is a high if that is just the labor charge if that price includes dumping and cleaning the sawdust and mystery junk from the fuel tank ,dumping and cleaning the oil tank and filter replacing the fuel filter and plug cleaning the air filter removing the starter to clean the oily clogged cooling intake removing the clutch drum and lubing the bearing checking the bar wear and filing if nessessary checking sprocket and sharpening refilling bar oil and fuel checking Rpm and adjusting carb also checking fasteners for tightness than the 80.00 is a fair charge sure you can do it cheaper yourself but what do you do for a living ?? do you charge for what you do have a electrican come and put a outlet in your house,or a plumber fix a toilet leak sometimes you have to think about stuff I have no employees and my overhead is small compared to other shops but I described my Tune up and I am usually around 60.00 sometimes more if they need any parts I am not touching the battery vs gas debate each has their place because I am not battery powered and I do have some smelly gas at times (after chili) JB

 

Just for you Tim.

 

It amazes me that everyone can do their own plumbing. "Plumbers are too expensive"....



nobody wants to call a plumber....well...until they have it screwed up. Then they need bailed out

 

Oh no! Not Klotz Bean Oil!!!

 

Oh if i had a dollar for every conversation that started with..."hey! You're a plumber, you wanna...?"

 

And the the words "all ya gotta do is" soon follow.