In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Splitting: round on ground or atop another

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by Yawner, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Yawner

    Yawner

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,977
    Likes Received:
    10,747
    Location:
    Louisiana
    I saw a video of a guy comparing a Fiskars x27 to a Fiskars Isocore and he maneuvered this large oak round on top of another round to do the splitting. Splitting rounds in the woods, do you think that's necessary or helpful or just split them on the ground? If I have to lift a big round to another, that's more work that has to be factored in!
     
  2. LongShot

    LongShot

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2014
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    2,157
    Location:
    New Mexico -Jemez Mountains
    leave 'em on the ground, if possible. Stacking takes 16" or so off your swing.:)
     
  3. FatBoy85

    FatBoy85

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    6,611
    Likes Received:
    25,251
    Location:
    Washington State
    I like splitting on another round especially if the ground is a total sponge or zero rigidity. I’ve pounded rounds into the dirt and split hardly a third of the way but another big block really helps that dynamic.
     
  4. fox9988

    fox9988

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,709
    Likes Received:
    8,275
    Location:
    NW Arkansas 72717
    I don't like taking the time to lift the rounds, usually several times as the halves fall off etc.
     
  5. sirbuildalot

    sirbuildalot

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2019
    Messages:
    3,374
    Likes Received:
    22,472
    Location:
    Mass
    I think it depends on

    A: your height

    and

    B: the handle length of your splitting tool. If your 6'4" and have a X25, or even an X27, it may be much more comfortable to swing higher up onto a block.

    I also think stacking on another block reduces the ground absorbing a lot of the impact. So the energy you exerted is directed more to splitting the wood.
     
  6. coreboy83

    coreboy83

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2017
    Messages:
    709
    Likes Received:
    4,790
    Location:
    NW of Twin-Cities
    When i was splitting by hand, I would leave everything on the ground, if I had a huge amount. Less bending and loading into my tire on the splitting block.
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2020
  7. SpeedShop64

    SpeedShop64

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2019
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    633
    Location:
    Upstate, NY
    If I cant pick a round up onto the splitting block or splitter by myself and no one is around I use a sledge and wedge on the ground to 1/4 it. I don't like splitting of the ground.
     
  8. buZZsaw BRAD

    buZZsaw BRAD

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    32,646
    Likes Received:
    199,653
    Location:
    North Haven, Connecticut
    Big stuff i will split on the ground into halves/quarters etc them use another round as a chopping block. If i have a bunch of rounds to split away from my stacking area i will let the splits mound up around the block so it gets tall enough to stop resplits from falling to the ground. I dont have a tire.
    Maybe 1/3 of the time i CS in the same area as harvested and seem to prefer doing it that way as i dont have to move/load/unload the PU with rounds.
    My main PA i have a 12" long 30" diameter block stump cut off i used to use to noodle and split.
     
  9. Midwinter

    Midwinter

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2017
    Messages:
    19,846
    Likes Received:
    130,472
    Location:
    Nashua, NH
    I use a pin oak round as my chopping block.
    My swing is not the most powerful to begin with, and I find I lose a lot of impact when a round is on soft ground. Splitting on pavement works great, but there is the risk of damaging your axe that way.
     
  10. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    46,971
    Likes Received:
    295,901
    Location:
    Central MI
    I split by hand for many, many moons. Tried it both ways. Always went back to just setting the log on the ground to split. It's just easier and no lifting involved other than the splitting maul or axe.
     
  11. Felter

    Felter Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2017
    Messages:
    1,107
    Likes Received:
    5,643
    Location:
    chicago
    if your lifting anything make it a tire to set around the round so the splits don't fall over.
     
  12. Woodwhore

    Woodwhore

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,371
    Likes Received:
    19,086
    Location:
    Mason NH
    I still enjoy splitting by hand. If their large ill leave em on the ground, if i get antsy on the couch at night ill go blast rounds in the tire
     
  13. Chazsbetterhalf

    Chazsbetterhalf

    Joined:
    May 18, 2018
    Messages:
    6,010
    Likes Received:
    39,592
    Location:
    Ny
    What about using a cookie. You would have something solid to put the round on and less chance of doing damage to the axe.
     
    Maina, Dakota Hoarder, MikeyB and 3 others like this.
  14. Yawner

    Yawner

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,977
    Likes Received:
    10,747
    Location:
    Louisiana
    That might work, what does everyone think? Or do you need the mass of the ground round, not just another solid surface to sit your round on?
     
  15. Paul bunion

    Paul bunion

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,378
    Likes Received:
    13,320
    Location:
    NJ
    A big cookie, 3-4” thick or so.
     
  16. metalcuttr

    metalcuttr

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2018
    Messages:
    3,532
    Likes Received:
    25,570
    Location:
    western WA
    When I split to lift and load in the trailer, the rounds are on the ground. Same for sledge and wedge. When I actually start processing I use hydraulics. Any re-splits from the wood shed or any smaller stuff, it is all done on one of a couple of chopping blocks that I have, I split as little on the ground as possible to protect my mauls and axes edges! Kindling is also all done on the blocks. Never could stand to see an edged tool strike the earth. How many here like it when the chainsaw kisses the ground while bucking a log?:eek:
     
  17. Easy Livin' 3000

    Easy Livin' 3000

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2016
    Messages:
    496
    Likes Received:
    2,795
    Location:
    North side of the ridge
    My favorite scenario is a stump cut near-flush to the ground, and I'll go to some effort to get the pieces to it, to split on.

    If it's too big to lift, I wack at it until I can lift it onto a block, and if that stump I mentioned earlier isn't available, any round will do, but a short gnarly piece is best.

    Often the block will get split along with the piece I'm aiming at. That's a bonus, and then we just move to another round to use as the block.

    All the added lifting and bending counts as exercise, and helps keep me on the same belt hole.

    I also hate scraping dirt off my axes.
     
  18. Midwinter

    Midwinter

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2017
    Messages:
    19,846
    Likes Received:
    130,472
    Location:
    Nashua, NH
    Great idea! I'll be on the lookout for a big tough cookie!
     
  19. Rich L

    Rich L

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2019
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    3,894
    Location:
    Eastern Mass.
    I'm with you.I just came in from splitting and now I'm cooling off with a couple of oranges.The after hand splitting feeling is a great feeling after cooling off.So relaxing.However I use a splitting block to split unless the rounds are to big to lift.Then they get split on the ground.Then the halves or quarters go to the chopping block.
     
  20. Biddleman

    Biddleman

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2019
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    22,791
    Location:
    River Hills of Pennsylvania
    I use a block almost all of the time. 12"-16" tall. It actually feels awkward for me to split rounds on the ground. I feel like my follow through gets off and just feels more natural for me if its on a block.