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Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by the GOAT, May 6, 2014.

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  1. DexterDay

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    Yeah.. You would like to think it means Good for you. . :)

    More like Go F*#$ Yourself! ;)


    One day you will run one and wonder why you still carry that little screwdriver. :thumbs:

    Although, after this weekend, I will be hard pressed to sell my 460. It runs Hella good!
     
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    I knew what he meant. Thought he might have turned over a new leaf though.
     
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    Man do we need a Northeast G2G. I gots a lil' M-tronic that will take that things lunch money. :saw::saw::saw: :p:p:p

    Nice job getting it together Mike. I take it she runs good?
     
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    Started on the first pull, only ran it long enough to check the carb settings

    Meh, in 10 years mtronic will be old tech. 15 years, outdated. 20 years forgotten and unsupported. But my little orange screwdriver will be keeping all my saws running just fine. :)
     
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    20 years and they'll have a saw that runs on water and sunshine.
     
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    I was talking to my dealer... He said that they are thinking about passing the cost of EPA compliance on to the users... Saws are going to come 'pre loaded' with 100 hours of run time. If you use up your run time your saw will shutoff but you can buy more 'credits' from the EPA to run your saw. At first you'll have to go to your dealer to get your saw reloaded. But eventually we will be able to buy the credits online.

    He didn't think most people would care too much since most of his customers are homeowners who never put many hours on their saws.
     
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    Anything to back that up? Sounds like a load of BS to me. The government regulating the allowable emissions level of small engines is one thing but directly limiting how long one can use the tool is quite another.

    I would think it would make it tough to sell new saws with such a limitation on them. No consumer would knowingly buy such a thing given a choice of one or the other and the "old" saws would still be around for quite awhile.

    The industry is moving towards cleaner running technology, not limited use restrictions.
     
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    He said they are really trying to push people into electric corded and battery powered saws... They don't feel most users really need the power and run time that I/C engines provide. Something about studies that show 90% of saws are used less than 15 minutes at a time. Though I'm not sure how accurate that is because they are taking the data from the auto saw computers. And that is a limited sample size.

    He said the r&d to constantly redesign and retool to stay compliant is too expensive... Might as well just let people buy the credits for the pollution they create. That way the govt will have the money to reforest the rain forest or some other chit.
     
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    That's why Stihl created this....



    Just sayin. . .

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    While I agree that cordless and corded electric tools are gaining some traction on the market, they are far from replacing gas tools.

    You didn't happen to smell anything funny in that dealership did you? No smoke wafting from a back room? Beaded curtains? Must've been some good chit.
     
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    Just giving you a little glimpse of the future... Once the govt is involved there is no stopping the intrusion.
     
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    Realizing I'm right on the ragged edge of getting political here (big no-no, understandably so) I think we need to quash this right now.

    Our gov't isn't that smart and/or ambitious to issue pollution credits and mandate, and subsequently regulate, that every piece of OPE has a pay-as-you-go limitation. They'll do what to do with everything else....tax what they want to go away and subsidize what they want to take hold. A rebate on battery powered equipment and or tax on 2-stroke oil is MUCH more likely to happen. Unless your orange screwdriver can pizz untaxed 2-stroke mix, I don't think you'll be any better off than the rest of us M-Tronic owners.
     
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    A-flippin-men. :yes:

    Now who's gonna post a pic of their 40 year supply of two-stroke oil? :eek:
     
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    Prepping and stocking 2 stroke.

    Everyone will just go back to 16:1 30wt so I dont think that would be a smart decision.
     
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    I'm pretty sure most Dino oil is older than 40 years :dunno:
     
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    I didn't say it wouldn't keep. ;)
     
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    Sorry, read your post wrong.:emb:


    Time to some math 40 years @8gallons per year (40:1) = 10 2.6 oz bottles or so per year. 15 gallons should be enough to supply myself and half the neighborhood.
     
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    Better hurry up before the word gets out and there's a rush on it.
     
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    I'm almost through my 20 year supply of it ................ just 3 pints of old orange stuff left!
     
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