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Friendly Reminder - Check your Stove’s Ground Connection! See pics

Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by don2222, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. don2222

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    Hello
    Pellet stoves need good clean electricity to operate properly! So a good surge protector and good spade connecting lugs are necessary. The main ground connection can also wreck havoc in some stoves if it does brake. Usually if there is even a small contact with the stove body it will work but sometimes this connection can be in a precarious place and fail like in the pics below.
    So do not hesitate to move the connection to a better place and clean the paint off and using a stainless steel screw will be better.
    Here we moved the broken ground wire to the inside bottom of the stove so it would not be squished by the side panel.
     

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    I agree with Don,a broken ground can cause problems,in some stoves,especially with VFD controlling the motors.But,the main purpose,is safety.It protects your life,if stove develops a wiring/short problem.Also,people should be aware,a surge protector does not protect you or the stove,if the problem develops "downstream",such as the stove itself.A GFCI outlet can,but not all electrical devises work,or work well,on a GFCI.
     
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    I agree with Bob and also may add that the only Surge Protector that I work with now is made by triplite not only because it works well in protecting you and your device by channeling a surge away from the stove and you to safely discharge thru the ground. This surge protector also constantly checks to see if the outlet is wired properly and has a ground. Nothing can protect you if there is no good ground to safely disperse a surge!
     
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    And the ground doesn't stop with the stove......checking the outlet for proper wiring (ground, neutral, etc) is also important. When installing a stove, we check these.....creates all kinds of angst when you tell a homeowner their outlets are faulty or wired incorrectly. Not to mention voids the warranty. We aren't licensed to fix or troubleshoot home electrical issues though.....can be a real Pandoras Box!
     
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    Agree and if the outlet is faulty then the CB can easily burn out a Triac over time! So the circuit board cannot be warentied!
    I worked on an Englander 25-PDVC on a 3 season porch in a very old house. Those digital Englander Control boards are fairly rugged. The porch was only 25 years old so it had newer electrical wiring and almost all of the outlets except 1 was wired correctly! :) The exhaust blower did not work but tested good with an AC test cord. Guess which outlet the stove was plugged into? Yes with no surge protector, the one that was improperly wired out of phase! It worked for 2 years that way. Not too bad? Anyway when a surge protector that also checks the outlet lit up red, it signaled a fault. The electrical tester showed out of phase! Easy fix but only if you see and understand the issue. :)
     
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    Sure, but from a liability standpoint, we arent touching it
     
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    Along the lines of what Lousy said,a while back,a kitchen GFIC outlet kept tripping.Then noticed intermittently,lights flickering.Found neutral wire,from meter to circuit breaker panel,slightly loose.Could fix myself,without pulling meter,as I have main cut out circuit breakers,in between them,outside the house.Crap happens.And,certain year houses used aluminum feed wiring,without proper corrosion protection,some electricians were lazy.OH,kitchen GFIC still is fine,gets tested once in a while,when I splash dish water,lol.
     
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    Fixed the thread tittle from convection to connection............

    First Saturday off in how long and don's making me work! Ugh!!

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    Oh, thanks - I asked Dexter but he must be on Vacation ?
    I had no job today either so I worked harder and made a big score! Guess what model stove??
     

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