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Blower Needed

Discussion in 'Non-EPA Woodstoves and Fireplaces' started by FisherGal, Dec 16, 2018.

  1. Marvin

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    Welcome to the club FisherGal! I think you're gonna like it here.
     
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  2. Coaly

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    You have a "Fisher Fireplace Insert". That is the model name.

    Many different blower options were available. I can't see if the front cover plate has slots along the sides next to the Insert. If so, it can use one or two box type blowers that look like speakers along side the Insert. If no slots, it uses a duct across the bottom.
    There are many ways to fit a blower, and the size should be 225 CFM or more. The optional blowers were all variable speed which is highly recommended. Most of the time you will run them low to medium corresponding to heat output. The slower, the quieter overnight, and they move almost as much air at slower speeds. Woodman's Parts Plus has a variety of blowers for gas log inserts that work well. You can also fabricate your own. I have the sheet metal pattern for making the ductwork for the bottom. They push air from the bottom around the sides and up the back. Most of the heat comes from around the exhaust vent pipe that you can see through the upper air outlet vent where the hot room air blows out. The front and doors is a radiant heater, and the back is convection from around the firebox. Without a blower, you are not taking advantage of the convection heater principal to heat much more square footage.

    From your picture, I'm concerned that if the right door handle is latched, it is far out of adjustment. It should be the same angle as the fixed handle on the left door. There is a wedge (or ramp) type angled piece behind door latch that the latch rod pulls tight. Yours looks to be at the end of travel and ready to pop open if not adjusted properly.

    Also it is imperative that you check to make sure this insert is installed with a liner directly connected to Insert and that it extends to the top of chimney. The insert was designed to be installed into an existing fireplace hearth and allowed to vent up the existing chimney flue. This is no longer acceptable and against code. Time has proven that the larger fireplace flue allows expansion of flue gasses which cools them below the 250* required temperature. This creates fast formation of creosote.
    Manual here; https://www.hearth.com/images/uploads/fishinsertmanual.pdf

    Another type blower on Insert.jpg
    Insert hand painted doors w blower 7.jpg

    Insert w blower 4.jpg

    Insert w bottom blower 2.jpg
    The attached pdf of blower instructions includes the sheet metal template with measurements for the bottom air inlet. I have original drawings for most parts, but most are 2 X 3 feet prints that I post partial pictures, but not in their entirety due to reproductions.
     

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  3. Canadian border VT

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    Coaly your wisdom is a great asset to this club. Thank you
     
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  5. Coaly

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    In that case, here's a few more !
    Insert hand painted doors w blower.jpg This one has hand painted doors which should have had the outside border done as well. AND the draft cap edges to imitate a plated door.

    Polar Bear for sale 850.jpg Polar Bear with added fan sold for $850 back in Dec. 2011 !

    Insert 5.jpg Metallic Brown Series III insert with blower

    Insert Blower 1.jpg Insert Blower new ($$ ?? don't ask)

    Insert Blower 2.jpg Just be glad I let you look at it. :binoculars:
     
  6. chris

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    Awsome stoves Coaly
     
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    Coaly is the true Magician when it comes to the Fishers. He's got information, even some Fisher stove builders don't have! With that said, I knew finding a blower would be a difficult task to say the least!!! You may get very lucky and find one at a junk shop, antique store, and maybe a yard sale, you also have to know what your looking at due to different companies having blowers, but in my opinion you got a better chance of hitting the lottery!
     
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    I need a fan setup also, time to do some searching.
     
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    Watch craigslist they are out there. But you'll have to buy the complete insert to get the blower. They do pop up at least here in MN. WI.
     
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    I'm new here . I recently purchased a Fisher Fireplace Insert and would like to find a blower kit. I understand they are rare as hens teeth. I was wondering if anyone has modified any a/c ducts to fit the bottom inlet , also were to find a flat fan to fit the duct work. I measured the exhaust hole at 7.5 inches , all the adapters I found are 8 inch . Where do I find the right adaptor for 6 inch stove pipe. Thanks for any help ,VW Sherm
     
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    Welcome vwsherm :handshake:

    WeldrDave or Coaly should be able to get you some info :yes:
     
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    Welcome to FHC vwsherm :salute:
    Marvin has mentioned 2 great members that have superior knowledge of all things Fisher:yes:

    Glad to have you here and hope you stick around to enliven the conversation :handshake:
     
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    Welcome vwsherm ! Nice to have you!!! :):handshake: Nice to have another "Fisher Alumni" on board. I will tell you this; I've seen all kinds of things made up fro blower units and your own statement says it all! You may have more luck finding a buried glopapagasaurus in your back yard! :rofl: :lol: With that said, somebody out there owns one and eventually will sell it or junk it. My simple suggestion is get you a "small fan" and place it facing under the stove or a little larger one so it moves the heat. May save you lots of $$$ and it works. I use a fan all winter long from a distance pushing air to my Fisher. It is a free standing Grandma though not an insert but same principle. My only other suggestions "build or fabricate" something that will work that won't look like it came out of a locomotive engine. :rofl: :lol: I've seen some doozies :picard: Best of luck in your quest.
    the reducer is easy, eBay, TSC and nearly any stove store, woodman's etc... will sell reducers. Here's a stainless one from eBay. 6" to 8" Stainless Steel Stove Pipe Reducer | eBay
     
  14. vwsherm

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    Eric VW, you would be a aircooled vw person. I have 2 that I show, not sure how to get a picture in here but I'll work on that. I'm having a heavy ga adapter made and I found a fan that will mount under the ash tray. Moving forward, I hope to be heating sometime next week.
     

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    If you're handy, maybe there's something on this page that could be shoehorned or fabbed for your stove.

    Products - Fasco
     
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    That is a fine lookin' automobile vwsherm :cool:
     
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    I am, or was a VW aficionado. My last name is two words, hence the VW. I’ve owned several VDubs, including a ‘71 Ghia (not a ‘vert).
    I miss those days for sure- but now I can live vicariously thru your story. Do tell!
    :yes:
     
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  18. vwsherm

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    Fishergal , I have the same insert. I have been cleaning it up this week . I'm going to use mine to heat my shop and will be putting it up on a stand. Maybe you can make a flat duct and fit a blower on the duct. Most A/C and Heating companies have a shop where they make duct work. Good luck with the blower.
     
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    My dad brought it new in Florence, Al for me to go to school . As I was a testie teenager and liked argue about when to be in with dad's car I didn't get to drive it . It stayed in the family and later I bought it from dad. ( 20 years). I sold the little car in 1994 thinking I would never be in the Volkswagen business again, 10 years later I found it again and restored it. The rest is history and now I'm in the Volkswagen business again.
     
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