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Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Kevin in Ohio, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. jrider

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    You also just burn for your own OWB right? If so, you don't need to split pieces down a whole lot like if you were selling firewood.
     
  2. jrider

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    You ain't kidding! I try to leave that miserable stuff in the woods or will generally cut it just to stuff into my OWB.
     
  3. Kevin in Ohio

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    Still needs to be knocked down some to dry. Granted, I don't do as small as sellers but mine is 24 long as well. I store all my wood indoors and some on concrete. I did an experiment on stuff that had been stored inside for 8 years and it was still borderline wet on the inside. Moisture just can't escape from a big piece. Variety makes a difference too as we all know. Honestly, if I was doing it for as business, I'd use a hydraulic to bust the nasties and big stuff and a kinetic to make the smalls. probably a table conveyor and a second person so it wouldn't hit the ground till finished.
     
  4. RCBS

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    I'm no engineer, but 60 ton from 14 hp seems like a stretch? Perhaps that's why its so slow?

    I would hate to see the round that requires 60 ton to split.
     
  5. WeldrDave

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    I'll get it if it's free and easy but I will "NOT" split it anymore, I just leave it round. Stuff thats to big I give away.
     
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    I'm with you here. Piston area x PSI X cylinder area divided by 2000lbs so... 3.14 x 6 = (18.84) X 4250= 80,070 then divided by 2000 = 40.035 ton... Nope, don't get 60 ton even at that equation. Think I got that right? :confused: I t's been a while..
     
  7. Screwloose

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    3.14 x 9
     
  8. Kevin in Ohio

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    You're taxing my memory here but I seem to recall the guy I was dealing with(who builds them for a living) said at 2500 PSI you want at least a 1/2 HP per GPM. I would think 4250PSI would up the ante on that so yes, I think that is another issue. You can here it screaming when the valve is engaged and people don't realize how much some fittings will restrict the flow and builds the heat FAST. People sometimes get misguided by thinking a pump with more GPM will make it stronger. It doesn't. It will just make it faster. Cylinder bore size and pump pressure are where the tonnage comes in. For years 2000 -2500 PSI cylinders were the norm. Now some of the newer stuff I've seen are going upwards of 6000PSI capable. The cost of hoses for those are insane. I've seen them used in loaders and such.

    It's slow because it's a 6 inch bore , 22 GPM pump and restrictions.
     
  9. Screwloose

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    HP required = GPM X PSI ÷ 1714 X % of pump efficiency
     
  10. WeldrDave

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    9??? It's a 6 bore.. What'd I miss here?
     
  11. WeldrDave

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    Regardless, 60 ton... :eek: Dam. I can't think of needing that much @$$. I have a 35 ton and it's more than what I need for home use, and that looks like a "home use" machine.
     
  12. TurboDiesel

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    My Huskee claims 22 ton and I haven't stalled it yet...
     
  13. Screwloose

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    Your calculation was for circumference not area. Area is π X radius squared.
     
  14. Screwloose

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    If my health holds out I'm going to build one more splitter. 6 1/2" bore 58" stroke 3 1/2" rod dia. If you want more GPM you use a stacked pump (one pump mounts on the back of the other) one larger than the other. Then you unload the large one at a lower pressure.
     
  15. Brian Foster

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    Totally unimpressed. This splitter makes me think it was on a Sunday morning info-mercial
     
  16. amateur cutter

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    X2 slow & lacking versatility. Sold to the guy that needs a "bigger" splitter than the neighbor. Like TurboDiesel said, it's tough to stall a 22ton & they're faster. My rugged split hasn't stopped yet either & I've run some ugly stuff through that too.
     
  17. Stephiedoll

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    Are you all men or women? I've seen the shows. It's 60 TON! I know you are all drooling over it.:rofl: :lol:
     
  18. Horkn

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    Here it is!!!

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  19. WeldrDave

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    Yup. "corrected"... :whistle:
     
  20. Rowerwet

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    That would almost always be me. Being a scrounger I can't be picky, and I often get call backs after the first scrounger gave up after taking everything his wildthing could cut.
    Plenty of 4 and 5 foot diameter stuff that I split vertically after quartering it with the saw.

    The only splitter I ever used with a fixed wedge that made sense was a super split with the work table.
     
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