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Installation of Summers Heat 2000 Sq.Ft. Pellet Stove - 55-SHPAH.

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  1. Gasifier

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    I hope to begin installation of the pellet stove in the camp tonight. It will not be anything fancy. Trying to keep the budget down. Have spent a lot of money already trying to improve interior looks of camp and insulation of cellar. Also have to add insulation to the attic space between cathedral ceiling and the roof. Poor insulation value there as well. I will take pictures and add them as I make some progress.
     
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    Pellet stoves don't heat evenly like a furnace. It will be warmer by the stove than the area's that are well away from it! If you go remote or wall mount, I'd keep the stat where you are worried about items freezing. Or at least monitor the area's that could freeze. And adjust the temps so that area doesn't get to low.

    Each room in the camp has electric baseboard heat. Each room has two heaters and they are hooked to their own thermostat in their room. I plan on setting all the thermostats at 40 degrees. But I obviously want those thermostats and heaters to call for heat the very least or preferably not at all. So I plan on trying to circulate the heat throughout the camp as best I can with a small fan on low. Now with the heat obviously rising I am considering just turning the ceiling fan on low in the large center room of the camp. This ceiling fan is up high and hung from the cathedral type ceiling in the center room of the camp. So maybe I should put the thermostat in the center room. ? There is two large openings from the front room of the camp to the center room of the camp. One is the large opening between the two rooms, about 6 foot wide and to the ceiling of that stove room. The other opening is a pass-through between the kitchen and the front stove room. So the warm air should circulate to the center room pretty well I would think.
     
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    So the electric baseboard thermostats will be set at 40 degreees. I will set thermostat for the Pellet stove at 45 I guess and hope that will keep all areas in the camp above 40. I will have to experiment and keep checking on the camp once a day to see how the heat is being distributed. I am not sure if the ceiling fan up high in the center room will circulate the heat well enough or if I should plug a small fan in and set it or mount it so I can direct the heat into the center room.
     
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    Hey Gas....two things, you may want to do a pre-burn outside to burn off any oil residue and cure the paint a bit. Also, you may want to run it for a while without hooking up a thermostat just to make sure things are in order. Just my $.02
     
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    Ohhhhhh man! :( I wanted to hook it up and burn away. How bad will smell be? I have window right near the stove about 3 feet away and can set up fan to blow out? Please?:emb:
     
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    It all depends but it might get a bit smokey.....This is a refurb you bought correct? Might not be too bad but if it doesn't have any burn time on it, it probably will be smokey
     
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    If no one will be there you can probably just use a fan to vent....Also, don't forget to do the initial starup, without pellets, and make sure it kicks out an error code (E3 I believe) after about 20 minutes or so. It's all in the manual and DVD.
     
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    Nope. I bought a brand new one at Lowe's. They had them on a clearance sale and then I got another 10% off after that so I bought the stove and the chimney kit all together. Hmmmmmm. So you are saying plug it in outside. Burn some pellets in it, then I would have to wait quite a while for it to cool down in order to be able to move it back in and then hook it up. damm! I need to get this thing hooked up. It is going to start getting cold outside at night this week.
     
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    Yes. I read the manual and will review while setting it up. I do remember them saying to do a dry run without pellets first. I may just hook it up and wait to fire it when no one else is there. Open up several windows and hook up a fan.
     
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    Yes...plug in outside and do initial startup with NO pellets and make sure it kick off an error after 20 minutes or so. This is a safety feature. Then do your burn with pellets. It's only a suggestion but I'm sure it will be smokey for a few hours until everything burns off. I would also recommend you read, re-read, and re-read the install manual. Lots of great info in there.
     
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    My first stove I bought (25-PDVC) I installed it in the house and had a haze in the house for a few hours because I didn't think to do a pre-burn outside. My wife was like "what the hell is going on?" lol
     
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    Hey guys. On the back of the stove the first thing that goes on is the pipe adaptor for kit. Should I use something to fasten the adaptor to stove. I know it said do not use anything longer than 1/4" sheet metal screws.
     
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    Yes, 3 self tappers should do it....also, seal with hi-temp silicone around that connection too...Basically, one at 10 oclock, 2 oclock, 6 oclock.....
     
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    Well the jobs around the property we own and try to do ourselves always ends up having interesting stories. Don't they?

    I got home from working a job today about 4:15. Started back to camp and noticed someone's truck on the side of the road down the road. Across the road from my property. Hmmmm. So I had to go see what was up. I'll make a long story short. DEC officer was there in twenty minutes and talk to him. He said he wasn't hunting my property. He was hunting the property next to mine. Only problem with that is that agency that owns that property would not have given him permission to hunt that property. :rolleyes:

    Sooooo, that put me one full hour later starting my install.

    Now, job gets started and when you line something up to go through the wall. What do you always run into? LOFL. Scotty. Where is that other whining smiley I told you I needed?

    Yup. With stove at center of wall the stud was right where thimble needed to be. So I told wife I'm not messing with it, it will have to be off center of room a bit. Of course being a great wife she said that is okay I will have more room on that side for something. Chair, cabinet, something.? Lined it up and made hole for thimble. Hello Mr Electrical line, going to outlet for stove! Phew, just enough reach on it to push it down and get thimble through with wire on outside of thimble. Much more to do, had to quit so I had time for a couple beers with the little woman before bed.

    Pipe and thimble through wall, but have to make outside pipe up. Then take it all apart and put silicone where needed.

    Do I even silicone joints that are outside?
     

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    I use hi temp silicone tape on the internal joints so that it's easier to remove if need be and nothing on the outside. BTW...looks good so far!
     
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    I don't like that it is off center. But. I am glad I did not take the wall apart. If I took sheetrock off and tried to cut stud and then re-box it in with 2xs then the wire that was there was connected to that stud with staple and that wire goes through wall to other outlets and back to box. :rolleyes: That would have been fun too. Yeeesshh.
     
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    Looks fine the way it is...probably not worth the extra work to try and center it.....well, unless the wifey says it's not ok...lololol
     
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    Thanks. Hi temp silicone tape? Where did you get ahold of that? Did someone sell it locally or did you order from internet and have it delivered.

    I am following clearance minimums in manual. Did you go further than the minimum from back of the stove? It says minimum 6" inches off the wall from back of stove. I have almost 7" the way it is going to work right now. Looks good for pipe on outside as well like that. With support bracket working and all. From the clearances I am assuming the most heat comes out of the front, and sides of stove. But you know what I have said before about what Benny Hill use to say about never assume. Right?

    So, do you think 7 inches is enough from the back of the stove?
     
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    Wish you had a buddy with you who has done this before. I hired mine done, but I have to tell you it was like watching the Keystone Cops! They did the install in three different days. They cut the exterior hole 6 inches off center from the inside hole, they wouldn't install outside air and the drove off with the service manual. Plus they charged three times the normal price. I got the price down $300 when I asked for an itemized slip. They tried charging twice for the same kit. This was a simple install, out to a tee, up 3 ft, then out the wall with a terminal end. I had to replace siding and install the outside air kit. We didn't pre burn this unit. Didn't notice any smell. (Was sold to me as new). That crew and manager no longer work for that company. I have learned a lot since then, esp. about proper cleaning. With that I have to say I haven't needed to fix anything. Just normal maintenance.
     
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    LOL. I hear you savemoney. If I did not have the "incident" down the road, and then have to break to have dinner with wife and kids (which I did not mind at all :Dthe lasagna was great) I think the stove would have been burning by 9 pm. Sometimes you can do better work than hiring it done. But, oh well. A few more hours the next time I get a chance to work on it and it will be done. I have to work tomorrow during the day and hopefully will get down there tomorrow night to finish it up and fire it up maybe Monday night. Going to start getting colder at night Tuesday. Look forward to burning more wood through the Gasifier at home and the wood pellets through this baby. I have a lot to do before the real cold temps get here!