In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Summerizing the stove

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Mitch Newton, Apr 11, 2014.

Page 1 of 2
  1. Mitch Newton

    Mitch Newton

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    905
    Likes Received:
    3,365
    Location:
    Beavercreek, Ohio
    Of course it's time to clean, inspect, repair, etc. after a long hard burning season. Does anyone put a drying agent in the stove or fireplace? Like "Moisture Rid" or "Cat Litter". I had some surface rust on my stove last year and some rust on the damper in my fireplace. Just wondering if some sort of moisture absorbent material should be placed in the stove and FP?
     
    Mitch Newton, Apr 11, 2014
    #1 Top
  2. Stinny

    Stinny

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2013
    Messages:
    14,113
    Likes Received:
    60,514
    Location:
    western Maine
    Dry hay came to mind. Bought an old snowsled years back that should have been a rust bucket, especially the skis… but there was no rust anywhere on the skis. The sled had been stored for years in an old hay barn with hay all around it. Guy at a sled dealership said they've seen that before too.
     
    Stinny, Apr 11, 2014
    #2 Top
  3. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    1,379
    Likes Received:
    2,105
    Location:
    San Tan Valley, AZ
    I leave the ash in the stove all summer.
     
    BrowningBAR, Apr 11, 2014
    #3 Top
    Chvymn99, My IS heats my home, jeff_t and 1 other person like this.
  4. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,614
    Likes Received:
    64,518
    Location:
    Central PA
    I'm like BBar, I usually leave a bed of ash in the stove as it seems to act like a moisture absorber.

    However, this year I plan on cleaning the inside with a scotch pad or something, and wiping the whole thing down inside with canola oil or light machine oil to keep the rust at bay. At least that is what I was thinking of doing. Anyone else have any ideas?

    I'm also going to fabricate some 3/8" id stainless steel venturi lines to inject heated air up the flue when I open the doors on the NZ3000.....it likes to spill some smoke into the room upon opening, even when you are slow and careful. It'll be wired on its own on/off swith. that will activate when the right door is opened.
     
    Scotty Overkill, Apr 11, 2014
    #4 Top
    jeff_t likes this.
  5. jeff_t

    jeff_t

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    1,215
    Likes Received:
    2,799
    Location:
    SE MI
    You are using compressed air? Are you going to the center of the flue? Interesting idea.

    My stove has a pretty healthy coating of creosote inside. I don't go crazy cleaning it, mostly because I'm not above building a fire at anytime in the summer.
     
    jeff_t, Apr 11, 2014
    #5 Top
    papadave likes this.
  6. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,614
    Likes Received:
    64,518
    Location:
    Central PA
    Jeff, I'm going to use a squirrel cage blower to and fabricate a tapered "funnel" that will channel into the two venturi tubes. They won't be centered in the flue, they'll be against the walls and bent inward where they end (opposite each other) where they will force a vacuum up the flue. I did this with an indoor smoker we built several years ago at work and it works flawlessly.
     
    Scotty Overkill, Apr 11, 2014
    #6 Top
    jeff_t likes this.
  7. My IS heats my home

    My IS heats my home

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    7,394
    Likes Received:
    17,655
    Location:
    Albany, NH
    This guy is summerizing my stove right out the door. :)
    Oslo out IS in....
     
    My IS heats my home, Apr 11, 2014
    #7 Top
    papadave, Mitch Newton, Chvymn99 and 1 other person like this.
  8. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,614
    Likes Received:
    64,518
    Location:
    Central PA
    gettin' a new one, Oz?
     
    Scotty Overkill, Apr 11, 2014
    #8 Top
  9. My IS heats my home

    My IS heats my home

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    7,394
    Likes Received:
    17,655
    Location:
    Albany, NH
    yeah, WS IS! Had two bad years with the Jotul. Tried solving the problems here, the other forum and with my stove shop, nothing worked.
    I'm really disappointed with it.
     
    My IS heats my home, Apr 11, 2014
    #9 Top
    BrowningBAR and Scotty Overkill like this.
  10. jeff_t

    jeff_t

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    1,215
    Likes Received:
    2,799
    Location:
    SE MI
    I see. Doesn't seem like there would be much air thru those small tubes, at low pressure, but I guess it wouldn't take much.
     
    jeff_t, Apr 11, 2014
    #10 Top
  11. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,614
    Likes Received:
    64,518
    Location:
    Central PA
    Good luck, and keep us in the loop on the install!
     
    Scotty Overkill, Apr 11, 2014
    #11 Top
    My IS heats my home and papadave like this.
  12. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,614
    Likes Received:
    64,518
    Location:
    Central PA
    We'll find out soon if it works....The pipe on the smoker was a lot smaller dieter so the volume may make the blower inept. I am have to hook up a line from the compressor and a magnet valve if the fan doesn't work.
     
    Scotty Overkill, Apr 11, 2014
    #12 Top
  13. fishingpol

    fishingpol

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    6,502
    Likes Received:
    39,643
    Location:
    Merrimack Valley, Ma.
    Avatar name change?
     
    fishingpol, Apr 11, 2014
    #13 Top
    My IS heats my home and Scotty Overkill like this.
  14. Scotty Overkill

    Scotty Overkill Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2013
    Messages:
    9,614
    Likes Received:
    64,518
    Location:
    Central PA
    Hmmmmm.....IdealSteel, maybe??

    Just say the word, Oz......;)
     
    Scotty Overkill, Apr 11, 2014
    #14 Top
    My IS heats my home likes this.
  15. savemoney

    savemoney

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    13,470
    Likes Received:
    69,188
    Location:
    Chelsea Maine
    I put containers of damp rid in after a really good cleaning. Cheap rust protection.
     
    savemoney, Apr 11, 2014
    #15 Top
  16. DexterDay

    DexterDay Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    12,411
    Likes Received:
    31,632
    Location:
    Northeast Oh
    And a light coating of Pam cooking spray. Most pellet burners do this, but very few wood burners.

    I do it in all stoves. Rust will eventually eat everything. Better to protect your investment.

    Some have great luck with ash. I did not fair so well. So I use an absorbent and an oil and plug the OAK & Flue/Exhaust (air infiltration is not good. I like my A/C inside my home)
     
    DexterDay, Apr 11, 2014
    #16 Top
    reelcrzy, Trilifter7, Scotty Overkill and 1 other person like this.
  17. My IS heats my home

    My IS heats my home

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    7,394
    Likes Received:
    17,655
    Location:
    Albany, NH
    Absolutely!
     
    My IS heats my home, Apr 11, 2014
    #17 Top
    fishingpol and Scotty Overkill like this.
  18. My IS heats my home

    My IS heats my home

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    7,394
    Likes Received:
    17,655
    Location:
    Albany, NH
    I'll be contacting you for sure Scotty . I don't want to get any bad karma by doing anything before the stove is actually here.
     
    My IS heats my home, Apr 11, 2014
    #18 Top
    papadave, foragefarmer and Scotty Overkill like this.
  19. Mitch Newton

    Mitch Newton

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    905
    Likes Received:
    3,365
    Location:
    Beavercreek, Ohio
    Dex, the Pam cooking spray sounds pretty easy, plus the damp rid. May try blocking the flue also. Thanks for the suggestions guys.:thumbs:
     
    Mitch Newton, Apr 12, 2014
    #19 Top
    Trilifter7, Scotty Overkill and My IS heats my home like this.
  20. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    1,379
    Likes Received:
    2,105
    Location:
    San Tan Valley, AZ
    At the very least, you should enjoy the bigger firebox.
     
    BrowningBAR, Apr 12, 2014
    #20 Top
    papadave, Scotty Overkill and My IS heats my home like this.
Page 1 of 2