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Backhoe Input Please! "Constructive" Positives and Negatives

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by WeldrDave, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. WeldrDave

    WeldrDave Military Outpost Moderator

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    Hello all, I don't want this to start a war in a sense like the Ford, Chevy, Dodge pickup debate so please lets be courteous from the start. I "respect" and will listen to everyones input on this because there are many more of you who are far knowledgeable about this than I so let me start here; I have a couple hundred hours only "running/operation" some various backhoes in my military career. I have seat time in a Case 380E, John Deere 310D and a CAT 420. I do not need anything that big in size and I'm looking to purchase a smaller hoe here in the near future. I really like the size of the Kubota L47 and could/would like to stay that size or a bit smaller. Well Seasoned has a Beautiful Kubota B26 I believe, and that would work well but I'd like to go one size up. My several questions please to all of you is advise on serviceable ease, parts $$$, availability of parts and service, longevity and the best "Used" bang for the buck. I know many of you have backhoes so before I make a decision on which one to start looking for I'd like your input please! I will be purchasing up in New England and have already scouted the dealers for many brands. This machine will be used for lighter, general clearing and digging. I don't see me trying to move 10 ton rocks or such.
    The only thing I can say in advance is that the Case I ran seemed to leak from every seal, casing, and gasket. I have no idea why but it was a hard working machine. Thank you all in advance for your thoughts, I appreciate your time and advise! Pics are also appreciated! :cool:

    Dave:)
     
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    Dave,
    I think you are on that right track with the Kubota TLBs. I know JD made a compact TLB 5-10 years ago, but I don't think they currently have any thing like that in their line up.
    If it would t be too big, I think you can find a quality used Case or JD backhoe at a decent price. As most excavating contractors have moved to a excavator/ CTL combo, backhoes don't seem to hold their value as much as they used to.

    Will
     
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    My 270a is underpowered for my tasks.
    #1 problem is digging out stumps. I have to dig out at least 3 sides before I’m able to grab it with my thumb and pull it out.
    Horsepower is your friend.


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    The Kubota B26 is almost as expensive as an L47. Depending on your needs you could also get a tractor and put a back hoe on it. A TLB is construction grade and will have a stronger loader and back hoe than what a compact tractor would.
     
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    We put a 16" bucket on this one. It does good but when digging stumps sometimes you do want for more power. Good reach and depth and easy to operate but they should have given the operator just a little more room as it does feel a bit cramped.

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    I dont own a backhoe but I do live in New Hampshire...my bit of advise to you would be to go a bit bigger than you think you need. Theres a reason they call us the Granite State...I promise you, once you start digging you'll find lots of rocks, big and small, in your way!

    I considered getting a backhoe for my little tractor but decided when Im ready for one I'll go much bigger, something like a Case 580 or bigger. Used they can be had for reasonable prices...heres just a quick example what Im thinking when Im ready:

    Case 680H Backhoe

    Ideally a tractor and mini-excavator combo would be best...but mini-excavators are very expensive, older loader/backhoes seem to be much more reasonably priced.
     
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    L47 is a heck of a machine. Here's a nice review of the B26, L47 and M62 TLB's from my local dealership.
     
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    Boy thats a nice machine!!! :cool:
    Thank you Mike!!!
     
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    WeldrDave Military Outpost Moderator

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    Yes!!! That's a sweetie!!! You obviously know where I am down in Winchester and yes, Rocks!!! all kinds and sizes.
     
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    That Case is a lot of machine for the money. I can't believe it has 4 in 1 bucket and extend a hoe. Even if a machine like that is about worn out, it would last forever for a home owner that would use it 50 hours year.

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    Thx for posting that video mike bayerl
    :yes:

    That L47 is indeed one fine machine.
    :thumbs:

    I really like the creep function, as well as not dismounting to switch between loader and backhoe.
    :yes:
     
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    I wish I had the funds $$$$$ for one of those, I'd own one tomorrow. Maybe I can finance for 480 months :eek: :D:rofl: :lol: or something stupid to get into one...
     
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    Hard to beat the older triple nickel Ford/New Holland backhoes. They made them forever, so finding a used one shouldn't be too hard, parts should be easy to find and they are a nice size overall.
     
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    Thank you! :) New one on me, never seen one. I'll look it up. :yes:
     
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    2X on this regarding rocks. I watch the YouTube videos of people digging and dozing without a rock in sight, and all I can do is sigh.
     
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    All we have down here is sand and mud and that has it's own inherent problems, you dig, it caves in, you dig some more, it caves in and so on.... :headbang: Repeat as necessary..... :headbang:
     
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    We have an older Ford 455C that's worked well, and wasn't too expensive to buy. It's been very reliable, and hasn't needed much maintenance, but in fairness it spends a lot of time in the barn sitting.

    At least to me, the big thing is to figure out what your limiting use case is, in terms of tonnage/horsepower, and then try to balance that against your budget/storage/maintenance constraints. Nobody ever regretted having horsepower :) My concern with the add on ones, versus a proper backhoe, is that they don't have enough guts to really go after stumps. The small boom may also be a concern, but unless you're digging out foundations or loading a dump truck I think that just means you need to get closer to what you're working on, and go a bit slower. It still beats shoveling!

    Also, I would go back and sharpen your pencil a bit. A new L47 (one step up from the B26 in the Kubota lineup) is a $50k machine, and you can get nice used backhoes for around 15-20k, depending on where you are. Large TLBs, as far as I can tell, are all pretty new, as the older ones are mostly hobbyist set-ups that can't compete with a "real" backhoe.

    Anyways, without knowing more about your constraints, it's hard to say.
     
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    Great info, Thank you! My use will be pulling/removing stumps, minor land grading, firewood, snow and the standard homeowner stuff. I'm either going to spend $10,000 on a used machine or $10,000 for a deposit on a new unit. That's why I'm asking for all the input I can get. It seems, I can do just fine with a used unit and thats the way I've been leaning but a nice, shiny, new machine :cool::tears: would sure be nice. I just don't know if I'm ready to take on a payment like that. Again, it won't be for "contracting or commercial use" just homeowner use. :)
     
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