New truck shopping

I haven't driven a 19 ram yet. I pass the ram and a Chevy dealer in my now short commute. Maybe after next week I'll go test drive a 19 ram they have a couple there. That short commute makes a truck even more viable. If I get the GM, it's going to probably be the 6.0, the ram would be a 5.7, (e assist or not??) And the Ford I'd want the 5.0.

I do like the idea of coil springs front and rear on ram, but I don't like the idea of the air suspension. I have air suspension in my Audi. It's been good, but, I have had to replace both front air springs totalling 1k with install. On an FCA product, air suspension scares me.

 

Went over and picked out a new Ram today. 2018 crew cab long bed Cummins, with wifes supplier discount 50k out the door. Fifth wheel and goose neck prep, air suspension rear, auto leveling, exhaust brake, trailer brakes, basic everything else do not like options.

 

I'm sure that someone will make a coil spring conversion for the Ram for when the air ride fails.

You could hold out for the new focus based truck that for may make

 

I'd just not buy an air ride ram. save my $ and spend it on something else that will break, like the 12" touchscreen. LOL

Yeah a re hash of the subaru brat. LOL

 

I know, the supplier discount is big. how long are the FCA supplier vouchers good for once you request one?

 

We'll the local chevy dealer has a new 19 crew cab ltz z71 with the 6.2. its black, and fairly loaded, and with the all Chrome grill looks pretty good. It looks a lot better than in pictures, even with the front bumper "jowels". That 6.2 even with the 10 speed isn't that good in mpg according to the window sticker. 20 mpg freeway. That's not that good mpg when you compare it to the 5.0 Ford. The much bigger displacement 6.2 doesn't have much in hp over the 5.0 and only 50 lb ft of tq more.
It's good they have a 6.2 there, and I should test drive it. If it's tuned how the 5.3 is, then it will be less impressive than it sounds on paper. The 5.3 in the 18's was tuned for mpg, and feels very underwhelming compared to any coyote 5.0.
So, it also depends on the supplier discount and what that means $ wise.

Ford, even without the supplier discount is aggressive on pricing. I have sent an email to my HR department regarding the Ford supplier discount. I know we currently make parts for Ford, and we have a huge, probably the biggest automotive contract we have ever had, with Ford kicking off. So if we don't have Fords X plan, leave it to one of the Buyers to get it done. Lol . I mean we have FCA and gm supplier discount. Why not ford when we do even more for Ford than we do for the others?

The last 19 ram at the dealer was sold super quick. I know there's transportation issues with getting new Rams to dealers. I'm sure more will arrive, but while that Chevy is there, I should drive it to see if the 6.2 is what it is hyped to be, now that it has the 10 spd. It lost 10 lb ft of tq for 19, but gained 5 hp. ( 425 hp/ 450 tq).

 

The 6.2 is pretty impressive really. I have a 15 GMC Sierra with the 5.3 and I have test driven a 16 Sierra with the 6.2 seat of the pants feel is definitely better. I have good friend with a 15 silverado 6.2 and he absolutely loves it. Pulls a huge cabin boat regularly during the summer. Unloaded hwy milage is 22, which is better than I get with my 5.3.

 

A 6.2l engine getting 20mpg in a pickup doesn't sound bad to me.

 

20 seems great. My work Truck is a Ram 1500 with the 8 speed or whatever trans behind the 3.7L 6cyl. On the interstate, whole tank basically. It will get 19mpg. Everyday for me which includes a good bit of idling all backroads usually and off road miles it gets around 15 to 16. And on a 2 lane highway never stopping or hard acceleration no idling it will see like 22mpg. But as soon as you start stopping and going it will drop to the 19mpg or so. That's quick look at the computer on the truck which is a lie O meter and usually about 1mpg higher. I always hand calculate out of habit so I really know what it is.

 

Then there's that thought process. You're right. That is great mpg for a 6.2. I was thinking that, but I didn't write that down in my ramblings. I guess I was stuck on the power numbers from the 6.2 to the 5.0. compare the 6.2's numbers to the ram 5.7 and it doesn't sound so skewed. That 5.0 makes a ton of power out of each liter. It's better than any of the other v8's at power per liter.

I haven't been pro GM ever in my life. This could take a while to change. I do however think that gm making the doors, hood, and tailgate out of alloy was smart thinking. They did better than Ram that only has an alloy tailgate.

 

One thing I hate in the Ford is that you have to get a 502 package to get the heated steering wheel. Even worse is that you need a 702 pkg to get the radar cruise control. On Rams, you can get either on nearly every trim level except the lowest tradesman package. Go try and find one with the 702 package. They are hard to find.

GrJfer 22 mpg on the previous iteration of the 6.2 is impressive. Now that the new gm will be more efficient with lower weight due to the alloy and more high strength (less weight) steel, and the 10 spd vs the 8 speed, as well as dfm, it should get better mpg.

 

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I didn't even know that first one was an option and the second option I have no idea what that even is, other that it sounds like some version of cruise.

Is it an oil burner like the 5.3 when it gets a few miles on it? They probably even fixed that and got that technology right years ago but I don't follow new trucks or stuff anymore really.

 

I have a heated steering wheel on my Audi. I won't go a winter without one now.

 

clemsonfor , not only do they drop cylinders, they do it even more technologically for 2019. There's 2 flavors of 5.3 this year. The higher trim levels have the advanced dynamic fuel management (dfm) and an 8 spd auto. The lower trim levels have the old 5.3 with the carry over 6 spd. Both have the same 355 hp and 383 tq.

 

They are not the old LS engines. These are Gen V engines, LT. I am not sure how they are. I know a guy that has a 14-15 silverado with a 5.3 and he said his next truck will be a Powerstroke. He has always been a Chevy man and so is his grandpa. I am not sure why he is making the change to Ford.

 

Yes, they are completely different than the old 5.7 engines. They both have pushrod and OHV, but thats about it. I also have a feeling that the 2 different 5.3's for 19 drive differently despite having the same power levels. The older ( current one)one with the 6 spd is not known for having much down low power. It needs to be revved up, unlike the v8's from other manufacturers.

 

I know those early 5.3 that cut out cylinders burned oil. I guess we're talking the late 00s motors? Had a friend that was rebuild by Chevy due to excessive oil use. And I saw plenty years ago new body style Tahoe burning oil riding around. Not sure if that is the LS block your talking about or not?

 

I think you are correct, those are LS engines. Afaik, only the ls engines are the ones ( gm) that have had cylinder deactivation.