One thing you might also keep in mind is to sell the trees when there is a good market for them. It would be a shame to suddenly find the woods are infected but no market for the trees.
By what has happened in other areas, they are probably wise in doing this. It's all in vain to try to stop them.
Was visiting family in upstate NY a couple of weeks ago. A lot of Ash up that way. The beetle isn't in the area there yet, but they know its only a matter of time.
Illinois gave up the fight against moving within the state. There are still interstate restrictions but I can now bring my dead ash firewood from home to where I have my stove.
Some of the places that have it bad around here are (wait for it) camp sites where ignorant people have brought in firewood, you just cant fix stupid no matter how hard you try.
Oddly enough a few places I've read about eab being are next to firewood sellers.(big operations). I have several neighbors who buys logs and literally dont care about eab. They also don't own land..not their stuff.
I wonder if any Asian countries have some of their native species ( trees, animals, fish, etc. ) being destroyed by critters from North America? It sure seems one-sided to me.
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I've been scooping up piles of Ash seed that are coating my driveway. I figure if I can preserve them I may be able to restore my lost trees once EAB has moved on out of the area.
Nope, just another fact of life to deal with. Much like the fact that once upon a time, a pandemic that might have been isolated to certain areas, now can be global within days. That being said, just because one has to deal with a situation, doesn't mean one has to like it.
Here is a PDF document on best practices for the collection and storage of seeds, in case you had not come across this document already.
Sadly that is the case with many things in our society today, if it does not affect you directly then some people just dont care.
What area of NY is this? East north east is still looking good. I find it hard to think about "selling" only ash. You or in this case I would probably have to have at least 50-80acers logged for someone to bother taking the ash. The profit margin would be so low it wouldn't be worth it. Imo Most logging isn't worth destroying the forest for anyway on private lots. You are on track with managed stands though. That's exactly why DEC is lifted the commercial movement of ash.
While I agree with the point about small lots not being profitable enough to be worth the timberer's time, I'm confused by this statement. We have a small ~15 acre woodlot (20 acre property), and had it timbered in 2010-2011 and had ~52 trees taken off the property (they marked a lot more). Not a lot by any means, but it was worthwhile for us and the cutter. I know that it did not destroy my woodlot. It did leave a mess. Ironically, I asked the timberer if he was interested in bringing down the tops, and he said it wasn't worth his time. It was about a month or 2 later he called and asked if he could drag them off to sell off as firewood, with NO compensation to me. Yeah, NO!! It wasn't worth your time then, it's not now. The EAB will do more to destroy our woodlot than anything else. Not trying to start an argument over landowner rights or anything, but I don't think that good management will destroy any woodlot. The bug doesn't give a chit.
I have several ash trees and one tree that is 65 inches in diameter and another that is 20” ish. So I am spent some time researching this and have paid quite a bit to keep them alive. All the stuff I have read from various universities and other sources say that Tree-Age gives 90%+ effectiveness if the crown of the tree is not heavily damaged. So there still is some hope..
Worry not Chaz. Logging will not destroy a woodlot, at least most times. There are occasionally a crew who don't know what they are doing and can do a lot of damage but here is where it is up to the owner to scout them out. For example, a neighbor sold to a fellow and got a good price. However, when they skidded logs they ruined a lot of trees that were to be left standing simply because they kept bumping and rubbing them when skidding out the logs. Didn't know what they were doing or didn't care. Either way, that was a shame. But most times, logging will help and not hurt a woodlot. Perhaps the other poster had a bad experience once or knew of someone else that did.
