The Smoke Dragon Slayer ?

I hear ya and I agree 100%....but, I am still waiting for that beer!!!

 

There will always be new and improved and more efficient b.s with everything now days. If you used a Toyota Prius to haul wood to your stacks you would freeze to death.

 

I wonder where that battery came from in the Prius. Or where it will go when the car is junked. I think some owners would be horified.

 

I have yet to hear of a wooly mammoth overtaken by a sudden ice age. Are you sure that was not the plot of a b grade grade science fiction movie?

 

Cmon Dave. You know exactly what the effect of a handful of poor running stoves look like in say a valley, or small city in stagnant air. You say you understand the difference but you keep flipping back and forth between climate change and pollution from an old wood stove.

The pollution from a stove is a very local problem. It is why several communities out west have stronger responses. Of course that freighter bringing in thousands of tons of crap that u all used to have jobs making, for sale at harbor freight is a pollutant. But it is not in your valley, not in your backyard.

 

I would like to point out that there is a whole thread here about car hoarding. The hatchback body style on the prius probably makes it a pretty decent little hoarder. Just sayin'...

 

Seriously? I live in one of the the cold states. And guess what? It ain't cold here. Well tonight it is thankfully. And I don't live in Milwaukee proper.. Hence suburban. However I spent half of my childhood on the family farm in the U.P, so don't play that country mouse vs city mouse yarn on me. I cut many a cord in the swamp behind the barn in winter, and cut the logs on a big radial saw powered by the power take off on the tractor. My grandparents were dirt poor to the day they died. Do not lecture me about folks trying to make ends meet. My grandpa also had asthma... I remember going to the hospital with him when I was too young to drive and he couldn't breathe, and having to park the car after he had had been rushed into the ER. If you can swing it, a new stove is a solid investment in your air quality, your time, your money and possibly your health.

Yes we do have an enforcement officer, three or four per citizen. All funded by your tax dollars. And they live in the city on welfare. And we have secret society meetings. Did I miss anything?

If you want to discuss, let's discuss. No insults. no insinuation.

 

^^^^you don't live anywhere considered cold. Maybe cold for a state, but not cold.

 

It is interesting that you say that now, when in your first post regarding this thread, you were quite condescending. I pointed that out in my first post regarding this thread quite well.

The fact is, you employ such reply methods from the onset, but after stirring the pot and then having well informed people make rather insightful replies that is hard to argue against, you get upset and then want to cite them for being mean and nasty as a way out. That is not the case.

No one person on this forum is smarter than all of us put together. People have learned things from me I am sure, and I know I have learned ten-fold from others. The only reason to pot-stir and be condescending is because someone thinks they have the only answer. The bible is the absolute truth, and its truths on human interaction can be summed up in two lines...printed in red words too:

Love God
Be Nice to Others

 

LOL I had some serious things I wanted to say but the heck with it.
Here is a JOKE to lighten the post up.
My opinion is not any better then yours, it just makes more sense!

 

From the pictures I have seen that is more from bad burning practices then the stove itself, you cant burn green wood cleanly no matter the stove.
I was in Maine for a work trip and one home I went by had more smoke coming out of the chimney then a locomotive.
When up to temp my pre EPA stove has no smoke what so ever, I would have no problem using it in a town.

 

Pollution - generally particulate matter and smoke... Doesn't cause global warming - unless you are talking about the deposits on arctic ice... This generally believed to be from diesel ship emissions and industrial sources. Carbon... Carbon dioxide and methane create global warming by increasing the amount of solar radiation - heat - retained by the atmosphere.

A poorly running stove will create more localized pollution than any busses driving through your area.

 

Now this is a dirty burn.

 

My parents neighbor installed a owb a few years ago, runs it 24/7 winter or summer. The smoke consumes several other houses within half a mile. Cars slow down because they can't see through it.
My mother has heart complications and COPD. No open windows anymore in the summer, even with them closed you can smell smoke in the house. There is no escaping it. We joke he pre smokes all his meat on the hoof as the cows are consumed while grazing.
I think itd be easy to to have removed or start a huge issue, but my parents "don't want any trouble" I would make a push but respect their opinion too much.

 

Old Spark...My Dad used to say: Everyone is normal until you get to know them...