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  1. Woodsnwoods

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    Two of the nicer trees on my land. Ash is about 24-30 inches at the base, as is the cherry. Clean and straight up for 40 ft. Thoughts on log value? 74954061-4E0B-4E61-B557-4A1E771573A6.jpeg 0C4D83A8-E3E4-4A73-8D2C-4F6E89E70479.jpeg D63E8E62-93DB-4BCC-8AB6-23B05758F483.jpeg
     
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    Nice cherry! Hard to say how much it's worth. How do you plan to skid and transport it to a mill?
     
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    Is this one of many or just one? We did ok taking the Ash off our land up North but it was many truckloads.
     
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    Are you just curious and want an appraisal or would you sell the 2 best trees on your property?
     
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    A 16' 4" log that is 24" inside of bark on the small end scales ( Doyle Log Scale ) at 400 bd feet.
    Each one of those trees probably has 800 bd feet. Don't know what your market is there but the last good ash I sold it brought .57 bd ft last cherry was .60 bd ft. It is hard to sell two trees if you don't have a way to haul the logs. What I sell I fell and skid to a log pile near the road where a log truck can load them. I hope this gives you some help.
     
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    In October, Cherry veneer was bringing 1500-3500 MBF, and saw logs ranged from 1125 down to 550 (four grades in that range).

    No Ash veneer price. Sawlogs were 925-575 (again, four grades).

    It might be worth having someone who knows which end is up take a look at them. Mills can be particular. The veneer sheet the prices above came from expect a 10’ 8” log, for example. On a saw log they sometimes like 6” extra, or you drop a full foot in length. They will also have a minimum sized small end of the log, which affects how you cut it.

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    It is unlikely a tree or two would be of any real interest to a logging company the has truck loads of loggs coming in all day. The logs then get milled, stacked, dried than sold. Simply put, the trees value to you, is much more than anyone else. Unless you mill the wood yourself, have a dry place to store it for a few years and can find a buyer, the wood has no other value than firewood. It is a tree, not lumber. It takes a lot of time and work to turn it into valuable lumber.

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    I have the ability to skid, load, and take these to the mill myself. I worked with a local commercial group last year and the money seemed very low. I have probably 30-40 of each hard maple, cherry, ash, hickory that are 20-36” inches at the base, straight as an arrow without a limb. I also have several log quality beech, basswood and assorted pine. The log buyer said it was one of the better stands he has seen as it has never been logged, but is well maintained. In any case, I am trying to find some legit cash with my equipment doing the work.
     
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    I have no idea but Im the one popping popcorn over here. Cool question and situation.
     
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    Worst case, the trees will make a great fire, stack well and split well:dex:
     
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    Oh no not cherry firewood again! :picard::D
     
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    My wife works for a good-sized logging company. They have a reputation for quality, and due to their volume they are able to get contracts from mills for a certain volume at a certain price. Some times they need to finish out a contract and don’t have the right logs handy. Other times they aren’t limited on volume. In either case, she does some log brokering, selling logs for others on their contract. It may be worth asking around. We also have County Foresters, and while they aren’t supposed to favor anyone, they can be a good resource.
     
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    It would be a good idea to get that ash sold,you will have a lot of firewood from the tops.
     
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    That is a different story than just a tree or two, which wouldn't be worth the time of a mill.

    Most mills don't take logs form just someone who walks in. You have to think about contracts, liability if a log has metal in it, an so on. That said you may have some value in the timber you have, but don't think that you're sitting on a gold mine just yet. What did the log buyer offer you for the trees?

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    $3000 for a volume of logs I cannot remember. The deal was I would cut and skid to a landing and they trucked from there. I make good money in my day job, so it didn’t make sense. It seemed like there would have been 2 ten wheelers worth, because it was about 3x of firewood log prices.
     
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    I would have to guess that maybe he was fluffing your feathers a bit by saying you have the nicest stand of trees he's seen in a while. This is not to say what you have isn't valuable, it is. However when you're dealing with high volume things are looked at a bit different. Not only is liability in involved, but regulations, taxes, transportation, all start eating into your potential profit.

    Your best bet would be to start asking around the local mills, this will give you an idea of what is involved and if they even want to deal with you.

    I'd get the Ash processed immediately, if it hasn't already been killed by the emerald ash borer. In the Ohio valley all Ash trees are now totally dead.

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    All good info. Thank you for candid honesty.
     
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    $500-$600 per thousand scribner scale in Upper Michigan 8’ long by 16” small end is 80 bd ft


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  20. JustWood

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    4 side clear ash right now is $.95/ft delivered in . 2s &3s lower.
    Ash is the highest I've ever seen it. My county was the first in NY to get quarantined in 2008. I've just started seeing the bug and dead trees here a lot in the last 2 years I would highly recommend selling every stick of it you have. We even have a market for small logs down to 6" in diameter . It's all going export . It's crazy right now.

    That cherry has a twist and a seam towards the top. Hard to tell without seeing the guts what it will bring over sawlog prices. Our cherry here is the best grown in the world . Some regions of the U.S. it's just plain junk. With that said the value of a log has a lot to do with what it looks like on the inside ,how it's processed and spec . I've seen the value of a log drop by 3/4 because of split , end pull , no trim , or not to spec
     
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