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Diesel gelled in tractor now what

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by cnice_37, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. fox9988

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    My dad had a similar trick. Build a fire in a piece of sheet iron. Let it burn down to coals and slide it under the engine. Worked every time. Yeah its a fire hazard.
     
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    I have heard this to. Good idea!
     
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  3. fuelrod

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    .....ya, that's hot sheet!:D
     
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    I seem to have read about putting a trouble light with a 100 watt bulb along the side of an engine and cover the hood area with a canvas for overnight heating but I wonder about the fire hazzard.Not worth much if tractor gets burned up.I like the timer on the engine block heter idea.
     
  5. chainsawsoldier

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    I have timers for every diesel vehicle I have- 2 trucks and a tractor. I set them to turn on at 5am for 3 hrs, then off for 2, repeating until 11pm when it shuts off for the night. This way everything is plugged in, and can be started most any time of day. I also added a thermocube, so they don’t turn on above 40 degrees. I also run Howes diesel treatment year round. Since I started with Howes I haven’t had a gelling problem. However, I keep a bottle of red 911 just in case.

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  6. Rope

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    The price of electricity is cheap, run those block heaters longer. Your motor is worth it. Use a electronic heating pad affix one to the engine oil pan and one to the hyldrolic oil pan. Give it 10-12 hours if at zero, if in the negatives longer when you know you will need the tractor. Make sure your running D1, no matter what they tell you #1 & 2 don’t blend, it separates. D2 is heavier and will jell with D1 liquid on top. Diesel 911 will melt the jell, idle that motor up and use it till empty. Fill up with D1.
     
  7. Rope

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    If it’s crazy cold and you want to be nice to your investment a heater like this for an hour will warm most all components. 634FD773-1F82-4C11-9A83-325F8BB0564A.jpeg 7C6FE3DC-7CB7-44D9-A642-F1AF182D0D11.jpeg
     
  8. Jon_E

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    My TYM is stuck at the top of my driveway with a gelled-up fuel system. I hired a plow truck instead for one pass and just left it there. It's supposed to be 55° on Friday and I am going to put the red 911 in the tank tomorrow and let it sit for another day. If that doesn't work, I'll tent the machine just like in the pictures above, set up my Mr. Buddy propane heater, and let it sit until everything thaws out.
     
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    Rescue 911. Take the fuel filter off . dump the stuff out . Fill with 911. Pour a quart in your fuel tank.
    Put a tarp over the tractor and a ready heater under it and warm the whole thing up for 2 or 3 hours.
    Use a heat gun on the fuel lines
    Make sure your battery is full charged . and it should start and run
     
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  10. Rope

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    Above when I tarped and heated, I am not gelled. It’s -30* or so, just warming her up. Showing a different way of doing things. Take this and make or modify to fit your needs.
     
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    Every store in town is sold out of 911. Looks like I might have to let it sit for a while if it won’t start on Friday.


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    You wont need 911 if its 55*
    Get the white power service bottle and double dose your tank. Make sure you run it thr
    You wont need 911 if its 55*
    Get the white power service bottle and double or triple dose your tank. Make sure you run it through the system good before it freezes again.
     
  13. cnice_37

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    I read it won't "un-gel" until 80+F.
     
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    Well, it looks like I won’t need anything. I pulled into my driveway at 5 pm, walked over to the machine, fired the glow plugs for 15 seconds and it started right up. Ran for 45 minutes pushing banks back and no issues. Got to put some 50/50 diesel & kerosene mix and a bottle of treatment in there before it snows again.



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  16. chainsawsoldier

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    Well my tractor didn’t gels up yesterday, but my loader hoses froze up. The entire hydraulic system was cold, it took almost 20 minutes for the 3pt to raise up.
    I know what the problem is now, as I took the connector off and puked some fluid out... milky...

    So when it warms up, I will be draining the entire hydraulic system and flushing it out. Got to go stock up on 303 now. The only good thing is that the loader was up, so I could drive it to put hay out for the horses.
    Charles
     
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    I use Chevron aircraft hydraulic oil, you could do an online search, call the local small airport or operator to get ahold of some. Do some online research am make sure your getting what will work in your machine. Advantage to the aircraft hydraulic is its rated for -100*. Now matter how cold it is outside, my 3 pt and loader work well.
     
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    Another thing to do is when you first notice it's starting to gel, is stop. You can usually tell if it starts running a little rough or starts losing power. Just let the machine run at idle, don't shut if off if it doesn't die. Put the additive in the tank if you have any and let the fuel circulate. If you catch it soon enough, it shouldn't be gelled bad enough so the injector and fuel pumps should be able to keep ahead of the demand and more fuel will be returned through the system back to the tank. Another thing to do is cover the engine with a tarp or cardboard, use the heat off the engine to help degel it. Another cheap alternative to avoid the whole issue is to put a winterfront on the tractor, or at least a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator and maybe even on the sidecovers. Keep as much heat in the engine compartment as you can.
     
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    With my old Farmall, that was rarely under cover, I would crack the hydraulic drain and get most of the water out in the Fall after the tractor had been sitting for a week or so. It was pretty forgiving of moisture. Many old timers swear by the IH Hytran ability to deal with some moisture. My Long tractor was a different story. It’s steel mesh filter in the return line plugged with ice easily. I’d do things like run the PTO for a while in hopes of warming the fluid faster. Much better sealed system on my tractor now, plus it gets babied by being kept under cover.
     
  20. Doug MacIVER

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    had our oil burner lines freeze, jell up over Jan3-5 weekend. used the Amsoil diesel treatment. took 15 minutes to get system back up and heating. amazing stuff