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Forced to buy some green hard wood....Question...

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  1. SteveM

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    Due to the harsh winter, our 8 cords of seasoned hard wood was going extra fast, and so I was forced to buy a couple cords of green hard wood to compensate. I am now burning a stick of green to three of seasoned.

    Sound OK?

    Will this really increase my creosote?

    Also, does anybody know how many fewer BTUs I get from burning green hard wood v.v. seasoned?

    TIA, everyone....
     
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    You do what you gotta do in times like this. Mixing it is with dry wood is fine. Better than trying to burn all green wood. Yes it'll make more creosote. As far as btu loss, I'd say 25% less than seasoned wood, but that's a guess. Being mixed with dry, you won't see the 25% loss. More like 10% noticeable loss of btu would be my less than edumacated guess.

    Btw, welcome!
     
  3. SteveM

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    Thanks for the reply!
     
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    You should be alright.

    If the wife will allow it, try to bring some extra wood into the house to help dry it down. The more the better. I brought some green (right off the stump) wood into my house in November and now it is kindling dry!
     
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    Been there done that..... Best if you can get and keep a nice hot fire going and try not to let your stack temps fall.
     
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    You should do alright mixing it in. I've burnt dodgy wood (not green, but not totally seasoned either) a fair amount of times. As long as it's not too big it won't affect the load much. Either in front of the dog house to get the blast furnace effect on it, or bury it at the back so it can have some chance of perhaps cooking off the moisture before it burns. Either way you'll end up with more coals though.
     
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    Green or dry a piece of firewood has same BTU’s. Burn time is only difference


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    False.

    Combustion of Wood - Heat Values
     
  9. SteveM

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    Thanks, everyone! Good advice.
     
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    I've used this, one scoop per fire, got a good report card from the chimney sweep. 41YeUfx-VdL._SY400_.jpg
     
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    LOL..."per fire?" My fire goes from November to April. Any idea HOW OFTEN and how much , instead of "per fire?"
     
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    All right, "per day".
     
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    I stand corrected. Is there a difference between recoverable heat value and heat value? I was told BTU’s same from power plant CEO who was burning biomass


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  14. Paul bunion

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    If you can give it several days near the stove it will dry a considerable amount. If you are inclined to weigh some pieces it’s pretty easy to figure out how much water is evaporating.
     
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    LOL...Okie dokie. Thanks!
     
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    Yes exact same BTU in the actual wood but if there is more water some is not realized when evaporating the water or not realized because of incomplete combustion.
     
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    Makes sense. Hmmm....I learned something. Thanks, man.
     
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    Welcome to the FHC SteveM
     
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    Hey, thanks. Interesting forum.
     
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