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Englander 25-PDVC weird Problem!

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  1. don2222

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    Hello
    I am working on this stove. After replacing a few parts I put in a new Igniter and it started fine. So I thought it was working fine. The next time I started the stove, it would not fire up and the tip of the new igniter I put it was not warm! So I put in another igniter and before my eyes, the igniter almost lit the pellets and then blew out! Two bad igniters? Very Strange so I put in a 3rd igniter that was a different brand and then after less than a minute click the GFCI outlet tripped a ground fault! That means a hot lead is leaking to ground! So I looked at the wiring and I saw the problem! Pic 4 - shows the problem

    So The shorted to ground Purple wire caused the igniter to burn out?

    Pic 1 - 3 rd igniter that tripped GFCI outlet
    Pic 2 - Auger motors
    Pic 3 - tripped GFI outlet
    Pic 4 - close up of 2 purple wires going to the lower auger motor shows one bare purple wire!
     

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    There aren't any pics.
     
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    Just finished uploading them
     
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    Hello
    So I disconnected the igniter and the stove ran for more than 1 min so I put the 3rd igniter on the test bench.
    Well the 3rd new igniter seems to be damaged and not working at the tip.
    I put in a 4th igniter and the GFI still tripped. Therefore I plugged the stove into a non GFCI outlet in my shop and a little after 5 minutes it fired up nice!

    Watching FX with a La Fin DuMonde! Lol
     

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    Drink a six pack of those and you won't remember your name.:drunk:
     
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    I think you could fit another stove in there!!
     
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    So true :drunk:
     
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    Probably - resistance-based devices don't handle (over-current) shorting well, melts the internal winding pretty quick.
     
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    Yes, I thought the igniter was defective but not 3 igniters!!
    The auger motor wire must have touched the hot exhaust housing causing the insulation to melt!
     
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    Thanks for the post & pics don2222 - going to re-check -> visually verify -all- the wiring on the 25-PDVC here today - much appreciated. :yes: ( I'll stay away from the Beer until later. ) :D
     
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    Well, don't we got a smarty pants here!!! :rofl: :lol: Just messin' with you brother!!!
     
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    When you check your wires, have some wire ties handy and tie up anything with too much slack that could come in contact with and hot metal. Good Luck
     
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    Beer helps to enhance my thinking. :thumbs: ... A famous Sig I've read "somewhere". :p
    :cheers:
     
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    Thanks Don! I'm gonna need it. :picard:
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    Hmmm, I wonder where? :rofl: :lol: