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Cleaning PH Horizontal Pipe W/O Removal

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by tungsten, Nov 4, 2017.

  1. tungsten

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    I have a PH rear exit, hence the horizontal pipe. Those of you with a similar set up how do you clean the horizontal pipe without removing the pipe from the stove. Ideally I would like to open the lid where the CAT is and shove something thru and have a vacuum at the clean out at the bottom of my Tee. Problem is I can't figure out what will fit thru there, the soot eater ball is too large. The only thing I can think of is a rope and a traditional brush. One extra thing in the way is the pipe damper. Anyone have any experience cleaning this thing?

    Oh, if anyone has been following my other post apparently my air damper is defective and WS is sending me a new one. You guys weren't kidding about customer service, I have been annoying them weekly to figure out what's going on with it. They are incredibly nice and patient people, they actually understand customer service. I don't think I have experienced that in 30 years.
     
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    Tom and his crew are absolutely great people! Lorin pops in here occasionally and posts an update from Woodstock
     
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    I used to remove the whole ‘T’ and take it outside to clean.

    My setup now has two Ts due to an experiment with a barometric damper. I remove the bottom T to run my brush up the liner, and will annually remove both.
     
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    Here’s a pic of how I vacuum down inside the PH. I have a piece of rubber hose, similar to garden hose, that I connect and “seal” to my vacuum hose with just my hand. You could probably feed something like that in past the heat exchanger to reach the horizontal.

    Cleaned the PH

    Having had chimney fires in this liner with an old stove, and having seen how little ash makes it past the stove with these modern designs, I would not worry too much about needing to clean the T very often. Keep the liner clean, and there will be essentially nothing burnable in the T (in my experience with my wood).

    Another thought is to try to (gently) blow the ash, allowing it to settle down into the bottom of the T before opening up the bottom. If you try that, do it on a day when no one else is around so you don’t get caught if things don’t go exactly to plan!
     
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    Interesting set up with the baro. I thought of using a baro instead of the pipe damper so it's more automated but I am nervous of chimney fires and being able to shut it off. how is the baro working for you and do you mess with the pipe damper still?

    So, as far as removing any of my piping without it being a pia is gone...I used the black Rutland sealer/cement to seal all my joints including the flex to Tee, Tee to horizontal, and a small coating at the stove collar. I expected the stuff to flake off and be easily removable, yea, not exactly. I actually put a small dent in my horizontal trying to disassemble it, so I left it alone. My only option at this point to avoid damaging anything is to move the stove, @ 700+ lbs I am not interested. I may buy a second soot eater and have my buddy turn down the ball on the end so it will scoot by in the stove top.