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EPA to ban wood heat

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by blacksmithden, Oct 30, 2017.

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  1. yooperdave

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    Could've left this out, no? Remember....


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    That was not politics; unless you are saying this to everyone because the whole thread was about a government agency banning wood burning. The thread at the start was talking about the EPA, a government agency.
     
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    We already pay too much in taxes burning wood for our heat source. Gas tax for fuel for saws, splitters, ATV's, tractors etc. Sales tax on everything purchased related to wood burning and wood procurement. Probably a few more that I cannot think of right now.


    The money we save via wood burning will eventually work its way back into the economy whether we save it or spend it.....................which is a much better avenue FOR YOUR MONEY to go vs. it getting robbed from you via legalized theft...........aka; taxation.

    :deadhorse::headbang::pete:
     
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    Yes the EPA is a government agency, you are correct. And by mentioning a government agency, it isn't viewed as political comments. I really don't think the EPA is banning wood burning as this same topic has been coming up year after year, as addressed by above posts.

    But when you start making comments as these....


    "However, reversing the regulation against pushing mountain tops off down into the valleys below was one of the first things Trump did after becoming president. Somehow, I don't see the EPA preventing people from heating with wood when the EPA is going to let coal companies continue to destroy mountain valleys."

    It can be interpreted as political, no? Just kinda edging into the land of no politics, thats all. One of the reasons this site was formed.


    I hope they weren't leaning towards an opportunity to vent politically. :yes:
     
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    I think post #6 is/was a political pot shot at one side of the spectrum as well? Unless I don't understand what RW BS means in that context. IS LW and RW what I think it is, or something on a duck?:D
     
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    don't know...
     
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    Mine worked pretty darn good
     
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    No it wasn't; I wasn't venting politically at all; just because you say something does not make it true. You saw an opportunity to try and bash me AGAIN. Not happening. I was making a contrast between something really large; filling up mountain valleys, with the smaller wood burning to show that if the EPA is going to let coal companies continue to fill up mountain valleys I doubt they are going to prevent people from burning wood. Now you have said your piece and I have said mine. For the sake of FHC, let it drop now.
     
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    I can't like this!!! :eek::picard: Why? You'll wish you didn't down the road! :whistle:
     
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    This is easy! The "ONLY" reason the EPA will considering banning wood stoves and burning is because that Government can't tax the wood we burn! It's not a cash cow for them and there is no way they can control that. It has "nothing" to do with pollution or the environment. All of our stoves and fireplaces combined will never make the pollution of one wild fire in California or maybe the 9 million acres that recently burned in Alaska.
     
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    They destroy nature mining looking for elements and precious metals used for green energy from batteries to solar panels. Yet no mention of that?
     
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    That is a fact, the media and government hide that stuff from people who cannot see that stuff for themselves. Refining of fossil fuels and mining for stuff shale gas and like lithium.....that's mega-destructive to the environment, air, and water.

    What about the wildfires all over the country? Take "firewooding" out of the equation, and imagine all the dead wood laying wound in forests, just waiting for the next brush fire.

    We all know it's bullchit, we just have to preach the truth and hope it doesn't fall on deaf ears.....
     
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    Yes, that is true. We enjoy our modern lifestyle but it has come at an expense; at an expense that may have proved too costly.
     
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    I have to disagree with you on this one, the amount of people who burn wood does not amount to a hill of beans in the big picture.
    I think it is about pollution but their intentions are misguided to say the least
    We have all seen pictures of wood stoves filling up the sky with smoke and in some places it is a real problem.
     
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    Mine worked great, wish I would not have taken it out, fools on another forum told me how great the new stoves were and I would save all sorts of wood and it would heat better, turned out to be BS.
     
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    It's gonna get worse too, it's all about money and greed, the coal thing is really stupid, the head of the coal industry is a piece of work.
     
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    Follow the Money.

    It'll always lead you to the truth as far as any level of government is concerned.
     
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    If it really is about pollution then why don't they regulate precious metals out of business?
    If it's about pollution why does the EPA need men with military equipment and guns?
    EPA spends millions on military-style weapons, watchdog group reports
    What is your definition of greed?
    I agree, but I think my definition of greed is different than yours.
    Is it this type of greed?Watchdog scrutinizes EPA on employee salaries
    People often confuse greed with incentive, and capitalism Which drives production, creativity and "progress".
    I'm sure I don't need to explain basic economics to you though.
     
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