MS441 MS440 MS460 - High Output Oiler Install

If the cast number on both parts is the same, how do you specify this when ordering .............................. just "high output oiler"?

Also, do you still block that piston to get the clutch off, or does the inertia of the gun itself break it free?

 

I have used the same Zap, Zap method to remove flywheel nuts off of small lawn mower engines and it works great unless you forget put the impact wrench in reverse . Yup I broke the crank off of an old Troy built tiller engine flush with the flywheel. I then had to drill and tap the crank so I could thread a bolt into the shaft to keep the flywheel on and it worked great

 

Great pics on how to do this job !!!!! P.S. I use an impact gun myself.....easy peezie

 

Nice thread. If you want to dismantle the pump you can change the inside parts.

It doesn't fit the 440. It's a different oiler setup. You have to mod the plunger and control bolt in them.

 

Good post MM. I too was wondering if same part number how do you know difference. Or is it a cast number not a part number?

 

Ok so the units as a whole have different part numbers.

 

It depends on the price. The parts are around $40 give or take $5.

The 440 oiler is the drawback to it running bars over 24".

 

He said the new oiler was $70 so tats cheaper.

 

I think I got mine for $57. That's worth not fighting the oiler parts sometimes. I had a body go bad on one oiler from what I don't know but it would not spin and killed the oiler drive.

 

For $57 I would not do it for $70 like MM said I would think twice about it.

 

My brother has a 460R he "converted" into a regular saw (took off the guards, put a normal pull handle).

He runs a 16" bar on it and I wasn't too impressed with the "high output" oiler on it. I didn't notice any difference between it and the regular oiler on my saw to tell the truth.
I haven't found a Stihl saw yet that I felt oiled enough.

 

The ones Bout 15 years ago did ! Figure out how to get an earthquake liked in there!!

The piled on my old 011 oils like I like. Idle itfor a few mins and a huge rope of oil will sling off.

 

I think you need to look for a new toy that needs one!

 

The 460R (Rescue) has the high output oiler, at least the one my brother has does.

I ran it with the oiler turned all the way up, same as I do on my saw and I didn't notice any difference. He runs a 16" bar, I run an 18"... in either case I find it doesn't oil that great. I use about a tank of oil to a tank of fuel... as does his saw.

How "high output" is it... have to wonder?

I asked him about it being the oiler was cranked and he said the same... didn't oil enough.

My main beef is the bar/chain getting hot... and the wear. I've gotten the bar hot enough that the paint burned off and the metal around the slot turned blue.


OHHHH.... PS...

Just wanted to mention to all. Make sure the little tab of the oiler drive arm goes in the slot on the clutch drum. Someone didn't do that on my 660 and it pushed the arm into the oil pump, wearing a hole into it.