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Fixing up a 6" 3000 RPM 85 CFM exhaust blower to run like new for Englanders & other pellet stoves!

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  1. don2222

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    Hello

    Here is a worst case combustion blower that can be fixed! Cost approx $15 for new blades!
    In this case the blower is about 4 years old and the motor is strong and the bearings/bushings are still good. No always the case!

    I pulled it out of a 25-PDV. The impeller blades so brittle they were breaking off! When I spun the blades, they stopped abruptly because the motor shaft bushings inside the motor case were so clogged with dust and dirt!.

    Here are some steps to follow:

    1. Remove the old impeller blades
    Wire brush the corrosion around the top of the motor shaft above the impellers and around the set screw. Douse with PB blaster and let it soak in. Then use the appropriate allen wrench or Torx T20 tool to crack the set screw and remove it. Spray more PB blaster in the hole where the set screw is. If the set screw created a crator in the shaft use an awl or screw driver and hammer to bang down the crator's edge so the blades can be easily removed. Then remove the blades. If they are real stubborn then heating with a mapp gas torch will also help.
    A pnumatic air cutter can also be used to cut the old rusty blades off.

    2. Clean the hub with a wire wheel and spray with "Dry Moly" spray

    3. Remove the hub and clean the motor's cooling blades

    4. Blow out all the dust in the motor windings with a 150 or 200 PSI compressor.

    5. Lube all points where the shaft goes through the bushings in the motor and apply ac to absorb the oil.
    Very Important ! Use an applicator like the one pictured below to get at these points!

    6. Spray impellers with "Dry Moly" spray for added protection!

    7. Fasten new impeller blades on the shaft and apply AC to test.

    Has anyone else done this? Any comments?

    See Pics and Video of finished blower fix. It sounds strong!
     

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    I've gone to the open c-frame design on the combustion blowers. Looks like the Harman or Enviro version. Runs cooler in stoves that have the over heating issue(AKA breckwell).

    c-frame blower mtr.jpg

    I can find the smaller impeller NP, But have issues finding the larger diameter. Any assistence would be dandy?
     
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    Firstly, they aren't bushings....they're sealed ball bearings. Using the compressed air to blow accumulated dust/dirt away from the area around the bearings is all that should be needed.
     
  4. don2222

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    Hi Jay

    I sell the one you picture to my Harman customers.

    The one I sell below is for my Breckwell, Enviro customers. I also sell them to my Englander customers that want a better quieter blower. :) All are 85 CFM. :)
     

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    Hi Pete

    You have a good point, I did not state that correctly. Athough every point that the motor shaft is supported in the motor case seems not to be a sealed bearing. I sure wish that info was available.
    I do know that these motors can certainly benefit by having lubrication. The one I fixed up above runs much better now after adding some to the shaft and lubrication hole!

    Also the Breckwell manual states lubrication is needed.
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    What size Jay? 7"
     
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    Yep, But just the impeller. I can't seem to find them.
     
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    Jay I have this thought it's a 7" but it's a 6". The one on top is the standard Englander. It's yours if you want it....the nice shiny one...lol

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    I already have a couple of those, But Thanks anyway.

    The 7" seems to be a PITA to find. I'm prolly gonna have to buy the whole deal to get one. $268 clams last I checked! :mad:
     
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    damm!!!! Maybe Donny can hook you up....
     
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    I was hoping, But doesn't look good. Or he didn't get my hint.

    Don, PM me if its possible to get the 7" impeller. Thanks
     
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    Hi Jay

    I just have these few, I will check on a 7" -- good to add to my stock. :)

    What stove make and model is it for?

    The Enviro Omega Impeller part# 50-1818 is 5.6"
     

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    Don, the bottom left is Magnums High flow impeller. Also the same one that comes in a Quad. I bought one and out it in my Fahrenheit. There are less blades, but they are larger and push more air through the system.

    I have saved a couple motors by cleaning and lubing.

    Good thread Don.. How much for a bottle of your "oil"? I have a lot of oil, but that applicator looks very handy. Do you sell just the bottle/applicator?
     
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    I'm wondering if I could find a quieter blower motor for my St. Croix Pepin… anybody know?
     
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    Does it have the standard 6" mounting hub and is it 85 CFM exhaust blower?
     
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    Looks pretty std. but I don't know the CFM.
     
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    Hi Krooser

    In that case I would recommend the quiet blower Part # PP7695
    That would do the trick. :)