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Chimney and Stove selection, Englander Madison?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by CoreyB, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. HDRock

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    That probe thermometer will do the trick, just don't forget to take it out when you clean the pipe, don't ask me how I know :headbang:
     
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    I do the same for my Madison. I like to buy a small fire hot to help warm the chimney. I would not put a lot of wood and walk away; you can forget as I did once. Of course I only had some kindling heating the chimney so no big deal for me. It is funny how quickly you can forget something if you get your mind on something else.
     
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    You have the same moisture meter that I have.
     
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    Here is a vid checking out the secondary burn. Can't wait to get some good fire's.

     
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    I bet you are wishing it was cool like it was, instead of warm like it is.
    That's alright, thing is, you are all set up and ready to go:yes:
     
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    Yes, yes I am. It will be cold soon enough though. Lol
     
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    I installed my new to me EPA stove in the summer, first time it hit 60 degrees I had er choochin:dex:
     
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    Ok serious question! Are epa stoves supposed to ignite? Like whooooooffff!
    I started the stove burning good. Got up to about 450ish and closed the dampener. She settled in and the flames went away just nice glowing coals. So I set the auto set back feature. After a few min I could tell the coals where glowing a bit brighter. A few more minutes passed the WHOOOOOFFFFF it burst into flames but with enough force to push a cloud of smoke past the door gasket! Then she burned pretty good for a bit and then slowly started reducing the flames. Now I will wait and see in it goes WOOOUFFF again.
     
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    They will if you shut 'em down too fast...that's my main issue with the auto set back...gonna cause back puffs sometimes. Especially bad in warmer weather when draft is weaker. Once you are ready to start cutting back, do it in stages, 25% at a time several minutes apart.
     
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    You don't want the flames to go totally away as you are adjusting the air down...if they do, then open it back up a little for a minute or two, then try again.
    If the flame goes out, the firebox fills with woodgas, and it will eventually ignite...WOOF! Glad you screwed the stove pipe together now, right?!
     
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    Ya sense then it has not died out on the auto set back. Been cruising a long at 400-450 on 4 small pieces of wood for the last hour. My shop stove would burn that gone in a bit over an hour. Lol
     
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    Wood that is a little too wet can do this more so too...just wants to go out when the air is cut back.
    Or a load of a bunch of small dry stuff can do it too if it is loaded on hot coals...it off gasses so fast that it just needs a lot of air to keep a flame going...try to cut it back too fast and all of a sudden the house smells like an old hunting cabin...not good if the wife has long hair...it seems to pick that smell up right now...they don't seem to like that smell...:whistle:
     
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    OK, you are not using the auto setback feature correctly. The idea of the auto setback feature is for when you want to do a low steady burn. You pull the damper rod all the way out and this cuts the damper down to the lowest setting. Then you turn the knob clock-wise and that opens the damper to the full open setting. As the stove starts to warm up and reaches the proper temp; which is around 450F or so, then the damper will closed back down. The idea is to get everything hot enough so that you can do a good safe slow burn. Evidently the stove had cool enough to allow you to set the setback because when the stove is hot, you can not set the auto setback because the stove is at the operating temp it needs to be. During slow burn, there are off-gases that are hot and you open the damper wide open and the fresh air ignited these hot gases.
     
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    Hmm, I might know someone who has done that! :whistle:

    I now have a sign on my chimney on the roof to remind me (I clean from the top down). :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Where do you buy these? How does the cost compare to building your own? I might be interested in buying a few for those cold mornings. :coldfire:



    :D
     
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    LOL; sometimes my brain thinks one thing and I type something else. I didn't catch it that time.
     
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    Ha Ha, that's a good idea much better than putting a sign on your forehead right?
     
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    Yes, I could only see the sign on my forehead when I looked in the mirror.
     
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    Well good thing that chimney pipe has a mirror like finish then! :rofl: :lol:
     
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