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I made it..... 3yrs!

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  1. MikeInMa

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    My haul for today. IMG_20170607_091814952.jpg

    Some 4-foot branches. Both piles are sure to grow. IMG_20170607_091821121.jpg

    I spent about 3hrs cutting and moving the wood. There's a stone wall between the properties. So.... That meant rolling the wagon to the wall, unloading/tossing the wood. Moved the wagon back onto my side of the property, re-loaded, and moved it to where it is now. About 4 wagon loads. A shower and cup of coffee was well earned.

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  2. Ctwoodtick

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    Very nice of you to be neighborly and make some wood for him. Maybe he doesn't want it if he was good with giving it away?
     
  3. Backwoods Savage

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    Good for you. I'd be very comfortable doing that with 2/3 to you and 1/3 for him. That used to be very common on the farms doing a 2/3-1/3 split with the landowner getting 1/3. In today's world they more typically rent land at x-dollars per acre.
     
  4. MikeInMa

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    Well, it just got better. I mistakenly identified the neighbors tree as red oak. I am now of the belief that it is white oak! :thumbs::thumbs:

    I have come to this conclusion by the rounded lobes on the leaves, as well as the tell-tale swiss-cheese appearance.

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    I took a closer look because something looked different to me. The bark seemed to want to flake off. This is not something I had experienced before while CSS'ing red oak.
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    So,, it would seem that I've started to collect for year 4. Being white oak, it'll need some time before being ready.
    I'm just stacking the rounds where I can fit them. I'll get to splitting them later this fall, as other full racks become empty during the heating season.

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    I'd have moved more, but the temps came up and the skeeters came out.

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  5. Backwoods Savage

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    Oh yeah Mike, that is definitely white oak. Sweet!
     
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    Thanks for verifying, Backwoods Savage. Going to be a long 3-4 years before I get to use it. I haven't ever burned white oak before, to my knowledge. I read where it's the cat's meow. Thanks again.
     
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    It is Mike. Even better than red oak. Enjoy.
     
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    We have lots of White Oak around here, as well as Red. Gotta love it!
     
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    3 years worth.... That's like 30 to 36 cord for me!
     
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    Yikes! How do you do it?
     
  11. Eric VW

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    With a saw and a splitter?
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    :rofl: :lol:

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  12. FatBoy85

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    I was just splitting a piece of wood, looked like doug fir to me. It was in the round and bark off. Picked this up middle of nowhere.
    Outside of log fine , dried up as they get. I split the thing and its rotting inside. It didnt break into a bunch of pieces though, just somewhere between spongy and intact. Otherwise still good. Its not good to leave it in a round but any notching or slight noodling might help. I figure Id put this in for softwoods knowledge but it wasnt stacked off the ground in sun and wind. By then I would expect maybe a different outcome if that were the case.
     
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    Ok someone from either of these wanna explain a big difference in white and red? Sooner or later Im either gonna pick red wine or white wine or red sauce or white sauce or red chowder or white chowder... ugh hungry now.:picard:
     
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    White Oak is just a lil heavier...so more BTUS per split. And some people think Red Oak stinks...but I think it smells good personally...probably comes from growing up on a farm that bedded with sawdust from a mill that cut mainly Red Oak.
     
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    The easiest way is to look at the leaf. White oak has rounded leaf lobe but red oak has pointed. Think red, a 3 letter word then think triangle, a 3 pointed whatever. Also white has a rougher bark than red. Most of the red oak bark will be relatively smooth compared to white. Naturally as the tree ages that smooth bark will become rougher especially at the bottom of the tree. Hope this helps.

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    Red oak growing some red oak, that's a smart idea. I probably cut some and feet smell better compared to it but Im western so this smell business is new. However I can say some madrona I split was Just like I described above so maybe its just depending on the situation where its grown? The madrone is dead and has been for awhile, I dont recall splitting madrone when its completely dead and its very hard to split when dried. Definitely puts up heat, if anything its the Oak comparative or better.
     
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    I was actually inquiring about wood quality, whats white got over red in terms of burning or whatnot?
     
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    2 red oak; 2 white oak


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    Red oak is used a lot for cabinets. White is a bit stronger. White is a bit better for firewood.
     
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