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New Progress Hybrid Wood Burner

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Calwood, Feb 23, 2014.

  1. Calwood

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    Hi all.

    I'm a new member that has been lurking around the site for a couple of months. Based on my research and the comments on this site, I am seriously considering the Woodstock Progress Hybrid. This stove will be going in my living room and the planned location will be in front of a picture window. My concern is with the heat coming off of the stove and pipe. Will it have any damaging affect on the window? I will be using double wall pipe with a clearance of 12 inches off of the wall/window. The window is located three feet off of the floor so the stove will not be in direct influence of the window - just the stove pipe. The pipe will be vented straight up through a cathedral ceiling approximately 15 feet in height. Has anyone had any experience with this type of install before?
     
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    I'm not sure what type of damage you think you would get? I really think your concern for the window is unneeded.
     
  3. Calwood

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    Thanks. My concern would be with damaging the window seals from the heat?
     
  4. My IS heats my home

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    Cal, is there a way to take a photo and post it here? I understand your concern but to make a better response it would be good to see where it's going. BTW, nice choice on the PH.
    and welcome to FWHC!
     
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  5. Calwood

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    Yep, pretty excited about the PH. I used to be a pellet burner. The stove is for a new home with construction to start later this year so I am just beginning with the layout.
     
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    Welcome to the forum Calwood and congratulations on the Progress; a great wood stove for sure. I would not worry at all about the window. Do you have to use double walled pipe? I've always used single wall.

    How will you be installing this stove? Will the chimney go straight up or up and out or maybe straight out horizontally.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the flue temps are relatively low with the PH. I can hold my hand on the BK's double wall most of the time, and can touch it briefly when it's cranked. I have double wall on the Spectrum as well, and while it is quite a bit hotter, I don't think it would ever cause any issues at 12" away. That's why it only requires 6" CTC.
     
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    Welcome to the forum Cal! If you're building new why not locate away from the window before you build? Center of a room might be a better choice..

    Ray
     
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    Or move the window. I wonder how much radiant heat will be lost through the glass.
     
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    I think your going to like that Hybrid! Sounds like you have a big room that lends itself to a good looking woodburner.

    I guess it's a little unusual that the pipe goes through an area that has a window, but certainly you're not the first. I doubt the window will be effected, double wall clearance, I believe is 6" from combustibles. I'm sure woodstock will have advice on the subject.

    If your inclined, post a few pictures of the room and where you want to position the stove.
     
  11. NortheastAl

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    Welcome, Cal. Great choice in the stove. Might be a good idea to move the location of the window or the stove while you can still change the plans. I don't think the window will have issues, I just don't know if you'll like the look of the stove in front of it. Good luck with the build.
     
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    Where do you live, and what are your normal winter temps? If you use the Excel pipe like I have, I can tell you that the outside of the pipe never gets hot enough to radiate any real heat into the room.

    I've just started a new load, and the flue temp has not yet come down, so still interior temp of about 600. I can put my hand momentarily on the pipe with no discomfort. Would not hold it there. I am not concerned about your damaging the window. If anything, if you are in a very cold climate, you may see condensation on the outside of the window.

    However, you'll loose heat out the window, I suspect significantly more than if the stove were located away from the window. What are you planning to do about nighttime window coverings? You are not going to want curtains there, I don't think. Maybe get Pellas or some such with integral shades between the panes? Or a roll down shade or shutter of some sort. I'd research what is available Now, before starting your build. I wish I had some sort of good interior or exterior covering for my large picture windows, other than insulated curtains, and I don't have to worry about the heat of a stove near the fabric. And I agree with Northeast Al, I don't think you'll like the look of a stove in front of a window, especially if you want to enjoy any view out the window. But maybe the pipe won't bother you, and you'll sit in front of the PH (which I GUARANTEE you will do a lot of) and gaze out at birds in your trees......

    The Progress Hybrid is a great stove, functionally and esthetically, and is built to last. I'm sure you'll be very pleased with your choice. I'll look forward to reading about your purchase and install.

    wishing you much joy with your soon to be new home. Hope the build is a seamless operation. Good luck.
     
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    Your minimum distance from stove and pipe to combustibles will be more than sufficient to keep the windows safe/sound. I would not worry about heat loss on the window either. It is probably a great spot to stop heat loss by stopping the cold air that the window would introduce into the room. My triple window sheets cold air onto the sofa when the cold is for real. They are 400 series Andersons, so not junk by a long shot. The nitrogen (I think) filler is a buffer between the two temperatures; inside/outside. If the interior is 72, and the exterior is 12, then by deduction the gases inside the two panes would be 42 degrees. That 42 degrees is going to provide cold air into the house, period.
     
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    As far as the window goes, our stove sits right beside a sliding glass door. Works like a charm.
     
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    Your stove is off to the side which is fine. I think the OP was gonna have the stovepipe going up by a or blocking a window.. Aesthetically it doesn't sound too appealing especially for a new home.. I would move the stove or the window if it were me.. Need a better visual to better understand the situation.. When we built this house we built around the stove/chimney so it was intentional..
     
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  16. Calwood

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    Great comments everyone. I know the stove location is a little unorthodox with no masonry behind it etc., that's why I thought I'd pose the question. The stove is in a central location in the room, near the wall which is basically all windows. The window in front of the stove is about seven feet wide, with other windows on either side. Room dimensions are 17 x 20 with a vaulted ceiling. The PH is more like a piece of furniture to me, so It will be a focal point.

    Not too late to change the window configuration, but I tend to do things a bit different than the norm.
     
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    I agree the stove is very attractive however the stovepipe is another matter..
     
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