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"Pine" ID please

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  1. BigPapi

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    These are a couple of the logs recently dropped off by a landscaping hookup I found on CL - would love to be able to identify what I've got, as I know next to nothing right now. All the Google-fu I used turned up dozens of sites where one can use needless or finished lumber, but nothing by bark, grain, weight, etc.

    If they post right, the first two pics are very sticky on the outside, and relatively light weight. Very knotty and they tear more than split. The next two are markedly heavier, much less resinous, and make for pretty straight splits. This is some heavy wood right now. The inner bark is quite red, and it leaves red dust on the saw bar.

    If needed, I can get some split pics too. Didn't think of it after I finished stacking the load I split yesterday.
     

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  2. thewoodlands

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    We have mostly White Pine up here, I'm not sure what yours is.
     
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    Im going to say doug fir. I'll tell you why. Its really red the heart wood is far into the tree. Yours is old growth so its a different bark. I mean here its mostly brown but the trees aren't old old. Mostly rings on doug fir are very prominent you can see them just about better than any tree around here. The exception being redwood which seems to show how it grows about an inch a year.
     
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    As FatBoy85 says, that could be douglas fir. I was cutting one today, and the smell of green douglas fir is distinctive. It is more sweet smelling than pine.
     
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    If you get it strong enough smell its got the scent of orange. Its really powerful when it is cut in the late winter.
     
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    My thoughts are the same as above. I would say its not pine but fir. The bark looks a bit different then what we have in the Rockies of BC but inside it looks like a doug fir. FatBoy85 I like how detailed you are about your descriptions of the woods you experience, especially the smells. My wife has a better sniffer than me as well.
     
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    looks like eastern white pine
    they'll bleed pitch like that that turns white from bark damage
    the bark can be smooth and greenish on younger parts

    Native to Massachusetts is eastern white pine, red pine and pitch pine
     
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    Looks like white pine. Western MA tends to rule out the possibility of doug fir.
     
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    So top two pics, eastern white pine.

    Bottom two pics Douglas fir? I can say it smells nothing like my Christmas tree.. and I am pretty far out of the growing range - Maybe red pine?

    I've got two more species to photograph as well.

    Thanks for all the replies!
     
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    Pics 1 and 2 look like white pine, pics 3 and 4 looks like Hemlock.
     
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    I'd call all of it a pain to split with all those knots.
     
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    That's exactly what it is if its pine. D. firs are pretty straight and less branches up the trunk. Until you get to the 2nd half of the tree.
     
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    Those are four pictures of Eastern White Pine. The bark looks right, the sappiness is typical of White Pine. I have never seen a Douglas Fir grow that large in the eastern US.
     
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    Yeah if that is the case then I say this is pine with all the branches down low. Those branch ends cut off look like they are full of sap.
     
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    Found some needles growing on the tree from the first two pics while I finished getting it all split up. Eastern white pine for the win.

    Might have made a couple uglies.

    That the four pics in the original post could all be the same tree is an interesting idea, but the grain, weight, sap is so much different.. I will look hard to see if I can find any needle offshoots.
     

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    Hydraulics.....;)
     
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    Good kindlin'!