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Wood id please...its a weird one

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  1. CanadianShield

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    Yeah I'll groove those smaller ones, thanks.
    Oh yeah, the large logs smell like wintergreen mint, smells outstanding!
    So black birch you say for these bigger ones - as a side note - is was a real workout for the saw to get through compared to the white birch I've been cutting.
     
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    I am an Ailanthus fighter. I have some patches of them, but there are other single trees that lurk also. I'll spot one every once in a while in an area I've been past/thru bunches of times. They hide really well when they are mixed in with everything else.

    Have you considered using herbicide? You can kill those big ones without cutting them down. If you kill with chemicals, they usually will rot and break apart, rather than the whole tree coming down in one shot. I have killed up to 16" diameter with a mixture of Triclopyr & diesel fuel. This concoction is truly a one application kill in my experience. Careful though...very potent stuff!
     
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    Buckeye and Horsechestnut are related, but not the same Horsechestnut has 7 part leaves if I recall correctly. There are actually three or four native Buckeyes. The Ohio State Buckeye is the Yellow Buckeye, I guess, because it is the biggest tree among the buckeyes.
     
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    I was always under the impression that horsechesnut was rare, and if you were lucky enough to come across one that you never cut them, but maybe they are more plentiful down south.
     
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    The Ohio Buckeye is our State Tree and the mascot of our most popular sports team. The Ohio variety is somewhat sparse in my area, but the Yellow Buckeyes are abundant. Ohio has spiked hull, Yellow has smooth.
     
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    They are actually a pain more than anything. Trust me. Walking under this tree shouldn't be this hard. You can't do it unless you've raked the crap up. Over 100 year old tree will make more garbage than the yard waste bins can handle.
     
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    I was told this is a horse DSC01659.JPG chestnut tree. This is located in Door county, Wisconsin. It was a beautiful tree.
     
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    Beautiful trees about the same size as what I was dealing with.
     
  9. MikeInMa

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    Black birch - Wintergreen scent. It is hard and higher in the BTU charts than other birches. Don't leave it hanging around too long as rot will start. Cut it, split and stack as soon as reasonable. I'll defer other birch ID to others.

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    Thanks MikeInMa. I could have asked the "go-to" web search engine but I'd rather come here for id.
    Definitely harder than the birches I've cut and split.
    Much thanks!
     
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    I'm recruiting soldiers for my one man army...

    How do you apply it to the larger trees? Drill and inject?
     
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    I use a two gallon or handheld sprayer depending on the terrain. Apply until bark is wet all around the trunk. I like to spray about 2-3 feet up the trunk. I think I've talked to someone before that used the drill method successfully. They key is getting the poison to the roots!

    Here's some literature:
    Controlling Non-Native Invasive Plants in Ohio Forests: Ailanthus | Ohioline

    I was told by foresters that cutting is futile as the root balls will throw out shoots for years afterwards. If you use herbicide, it gets taken into the root system and will kill it. The diesel fuel allows the Triclopyr to penetrate the bark and be drawn into the vascular system of the tree. I usually pull the saplings by hand if I can rather than use chemicals.
     
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    Thanks a lot. I'm actually looking forward to trying this out.
     
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    Killing invasives is a favorite hobby of mine! Glad to see others joining the good fight!

    Amazon sells the Triclopyr for about the cheapest price I have found by the gallon. Don't worry about buying "name brand", just pay attention to concentration percentage. You want 60% Triclopyr.

    Disclaimer time! Please be careful with the herbicide! It is not generally considered a high risk chemical, but caution should be used nonetheless. I wear gloves and eye protection when mixing and spraying. I also try to avoid windy days to keep it from blowing around.

    Triclopyr - Toxipedia

    Now that's out of the way...go get em! :tip:
     
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    Again I can't thank you enough. I have no problem engaging in a preemptive strike against the invasives.
     
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    I want to understand if this tidbit about Ailanthus is correct or not. People can experience cardiac arrest from the sap?
     
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    I am unaware of this, but intrigued.
     
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    I probably saw it on what people here call it the "other site" either way there was the original posting then there was another. Guy said he found it hard to breathe after processing. Eyes and throat swelled.
     
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    I read that somewhere doing a google search. I asked my forester about it specifically when I was talking to him about these trees and he had never heard of it.
     
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    Thank you maybe some are just sensitive to it as an allergy but something this poisonous? It's given me doubt for sure.