Thanks for showing that video Kimberly because is shows just how serious felling a tree can be when cutting it near a structure. There is no room for error. That was sad for the home owner.
I'd think "professionals" would have brought it down in pieces being that close to a house and all. Insurance gets picky about things like that.
What I didn't anticipate when I took the Game of Logging training was that most of the others would be professional loggers who were mostly doing it to lower their insurance premiums. It was "Level 1" training, but I was the only beginner present. They start with a review of basic safety issues, a discussion of their primary method of felling (plunge cut behind the notch and set up the hinge, place wedges if necessary, then cut it loose), and some practice plunge-cutting into a stump. As a final exercise we each had to choose a tree, place a stake with a flag on it about 30' from the base, and then try to hit the stake with the tree. I put my target in line with the natural lean of an easy tree, and missed it by almost 4' -- not impressive, but also not a catastrophe and I was glad to get the display of my inexperience over with. One of the loggers, a young hotshot I'd guess was about 24 years old, chose a tree with a heavy lean that was itself enough to elicit some "Oh, boy" type comments from the other guys. Then he placed his stake about 110 degrees away from the direction of the lean. He had good reason to do this, because a secondary goal was to drop these trees across a path that was being used by trespassing ATV riders, as a favor to the landowner. Placing the flag so far away from the direction the tree obviously wants to go elicits some hoots and whistles, but this kid barely even pauses before he starts his saw. Dangit if he doesn't somehow flip that tree over and actually hit the stake with it. I hated that guy. I still don't understand the physics of what he did.
Pro timber fallers and arborists are amazing. The cut your talking about is called a 'dutch hip" around where i live. Ive seen my uncle use it when i was a kid. As for the video the idiot falling the tree should have used a tree jack, or climbed it and peiced it down.
And what makes an instructional video? What are they trying to teach? Shoot, I've even seen videos that others praise and I shudder to watch how foolish they are. Are some good? Yes, but for someone who does not know, how can they tell the difference between good, marginal or even stupid?
I have been watching the ones that are certified instructional videos; some were pointed out by members on the forum. I don't think I would attempt a plunge cut yet although I understand that you start it with the underside of the chain and when you get the cut started rotate the bar and then plunge in with the bar.
This and others like it, would be considered instructional . Chapter 10: Felling Sent from my XT1030 using Tapatalk
Old vids, youtube is full of them. What was intended didn't happen, what happened wasn't intended, right? Over analyzing it will result in nothing. Hindsight is 20/20. Do not attempt/try at home!
I would have dropped that tree by the house no problem. Without a "real" static load rope up HIGH and tested to preload the tree ? No way ..... Maybe then, not now. Relying only on wedges next to a house no way. In the woods sure. Show me stump pic's and I'll give my opinion.
Did anyone else notice "NO" tether line for strain... As Billb3 said, whay wasn't that brought down in pieces with a bucket truck? That would have been the "professional" way. I'm no tree jocky but I have brought down a many trees without incident or damage. If I remotely have the inclination it even "might" go the other way, will tether and strain to a dead point with line/rope for that very reason.
I disagree. I have learned a lot from watching the videos; unlike vocal training I see important things such as sighting the tree for lean, clearing the debris, checking the escape path, making the notch, making the backcut etc. Then with these visual in my mind I try to apply them when I am out in the field. It would be nice to have an experience tree person with me that could correct me in real time but I don't have that. My wood is not just going to magically appear, I have to get it done myself.
I will grant you that there is a lot of junk on YouTube, and Vimeo, and DailyMotion, and all the others but that does not mean that one can not find useful information on these sites. Hell, I have had state paid professors that handed me crap each day and then gave me a test with made up crap he pulled out of his arse. For example, I dropped my little digital camera and I decided to try and repair it. I found a video on YouTube that showed how to disassemble the camera; which was not easy (and talk about some tiny screws). I may could have figured out how to do it but seeing the video saved me a lot of time and possible breakage of parts. So don't just dismiss YouTube and other video sites off hand, it is not all crap. And yes, I got the camera working again.
I also find it funny that when I first came here people linked to videos for me to watch; which I did. Now there are those that are laughing at me for watching videos.
Great job on the camera repair !!!! People don't fix anything themselves anymore, shame. But to be honest watching the wrong camera repair video won't cause your death.
