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Should we discontinue DST?

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by Backwoods Savage, Mar 12, 2017.

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Should we discontue DST?

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  2. No

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  1. savemoney

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    It has come up, time to time, that we go with Maritime time zone. That might work, except we would be so out of sync with broadcasting. I think this is just part of being so far north.. In the summertime, it get light at 4:30-5 and dark close to 9 PM. That is when you really see the garden grow. Just huge changes from one week to the next.
     
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  2. Felter

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    mine doesn't. when I'm working a job that I have to get up at 430 and it gets light at 6. on my day off I'm up at 430. I couldn't sleep later if I wanted to. same thing with sleeping thru daylight.
     
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    can you post a link to your source of information? I'd be interested to read more.
    I found this quote.
    American inventor and politician Benjamin Franklin proposed a form of daylight time in 1784. He wrote an essay “An Economical Project for Diminishing the Cost of Light” to the editor of The Journal of Paris, suggesting, somewhat jokingly, that Parisians could economize candle usage by getting people out of bed earlier in the morning, making use of the natural morning light instead
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    Daylight saving time - Wikipedia
     
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    One site only, no idea how accurate it may be. The History of Daylight Saving Time
    The problem is that several studies have shown the detriment to human health; therefore, any savings in fuel, etc is offset more greatly by the costs and suffering over health related problems.
     
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    based on this wording,^^^^^^ I get the impression that DST either; kills people, drives them into an early grave, gives them cancer, causes strokes, etc.

    can you post a link to the studies showing "the detriment to human health"? I'd be interested to read more.
     
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    Here is a CNN article. Daylight saving time can be bad for your health - CNN.com Some companies; such as P&G, rotate people on day night shifts; which means the person never really adjusts; my brother had to quit working for P&G because of the crazy shift rotates, he almost had a serious accident from falling asleep at the wheel.
     
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    I prefer "Miller time"! :cheers::drunk:
     
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    so the study was conducted over a 3 week period and measured the amount of people who were hospitalized for stroke in finland?? and they blamed DST for the results?? seems a little presumptuous. I would think a study conducted over a period of a year, or 5-10 years would be more conclusive.

    news stations have a reputation for taking a small amount of scientific data and skewing it to make an interesting story. because after all what the masses want is human interest stories, and scientific research rarely meets that demand. as a result we get fed "news stories" that are disingenuous, at best.

    while I don't agree with everything in the video below. he makes a few good points. CAUTION LANGUAGE.
     
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    errrr, oops.
     
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    They are talking in Lansing right now about doing just that, making DST Permanent.
    Sounds great to me, I like it getting dark later.
    Even the way it is right now it's not a big deal to me, it doesn't bother me
     
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    What surprises me is that people have easy access to data but for some reason it is too much of a bother to look it up. Also, most look for confirmation bias. Hell, why stop at an hour; let's sets the clocks forward three hours, that will really give you some extra hours of sunlight; if one hour is good, three hours have to be gooder.
     
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    I agree!!!

    unfortunately on the internet, sometimes ppl make up what they call "facts" or give you opinions they try to pass as "facts". or give a skewed report that they try to pass as "facts" that's why its necessary to convince them to fact check their "facts". I like how you said "its easy to access data" and I agree its a real shame that they don't bother to look it up.
     
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    As a matter of fact I have studied it and as I said that's as political as I will get I feel absolutely no need to prove to you I have done anything.

    Now YOU go do some real research. FACT is no matter what I show you you will call it BS I am done here.
     
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    thank you for your advice. :) here I did some more research.
    here is the result of one search;
    Was daylight savings time really created for farmers?
    that was taught to me also. But its really to save electricity. Farmers have nothing to do with it.

    Was daylight savings time really created for farmers?

    8 Things You May Not Know About Daylight Saving Time - History in the Headlines
    here is another search;
    Daylight Saving Time Myths

    here is another search. in fact this one states that farmers fought against DST.
    “The farmers were the reason we never had a peacetime daylight saving time until 1966,”
    Daylight saving time, in this or any other country, was never adopted to benefit farmers; it was first proposed by William Willett to the British Parliament in 1907 as a way to take full advantage of the day’s light.
    Daylight saving time helps farmers and promotes health, right? Not. - Portland Press Herald
     
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    :rofl: :lol: its all in good fun. I try not to take things too serious, :thumbs:
     
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    I take it seriously when people say I am full of BS with groundless facts directly or indirectly.

    I am sorry for exploding last night that was wrong of me. I not above saying I am wrong. Frankly I have done a lot of research on this topic and know what I believe and why. I was not attempting to start an argument or debate with my original comment nor will I continue a debate in public.

    I do not wish to continue this topic because I will get political and that's is not what I or anybody else wants to see happen.

    I would be happy to go at it on this topic in a pm if you wish in a friendly manner..
    :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Most studies are skewed you have to take em with a grain of salt.
    Some studies I have seen I think they are total BS
    1 hour time difference causing big health problems , ha , I ain't buying it
     
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