Madison Door Gasket

Beer, Beer, Beer,...Highjack....So sue me...

 

Been tippin' back a few?

 

I'm gonna have to just to get through all these pages!

Take the door off, assess the situation, fix problem, done! I'm sure it stinks for you that this happened on your new stove but sometimes shiz happens. It could have been fixed in a hour and done with, then maybe try to get answers from the manufacturer or just move on and stay warm.

 

I don't think the ESW would put something on the market without doing proper "due diligence" here. My 13NC and most everyones 30NC have been flawless, no nonsense heaters!!

Maybe I'm way off base...................I dunno.......................can't wait for the outcome here.

 

yooperdave if my posts bother you so much, why do you read them?

 

In light of recent meteorological developments, I'd like to see a little less talkin' and a little more workin' on the Kimberly timberly burner...

 

He enjoys a good train wreck?

 

They are hard to ignore...

 

Hoo boy! What a question!

I'd have to say that it must be the british accent! Soooo sexy!

That and of course it is a public forum that is available for everyone and anyone to read and reply to.



With the warm weather, did you get the stove worked on? Hope so.

 

Took the door off and did measurements etc. I also did a quick design for a new and improved glass retainer. Don't have a caliper or mic for the thickness but I am guessing 1/16 steel. I don't have cad on the computer any more so it will have to be a rough sketch.

I post data and photos later, I have other work I need to do. Plus, bit chilly in the house since no fire since yesterday morning. It is a bit overcast here and that has kept the temperature down a bit.

 

Bout time!

There's a lot of advice/suggestions within these 10 pages and not a one of 'em required calipers or cad systems. Just keep it simple and enjoy the results.

No need for data either. Doesn't help. Just a simple pic saying this is what I did and it worked!

Hope you like this post!

 

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Calipers and CAD? You gotta come from a engineering background, sound just like my brother in law. Spends months planning and agonizing over the smallest projects that could have been done in hours. Guy builds oxygen systems for private jets but can't mud a drywall seam. Went over to help him, asked where his hawk or mud pan was and he comes downstairs with a large Tupperware container expecting that I can use that.

Pics of this when done Kimberly

 

Man I hear ya. Living and working around the Waterloo Iowa area as a landscaper you cant hardly swing a dead cat by the tail and not hit a retired John Deere engineer in the head. I can spot them within 5 seconds when I get to the job site. It is usually on hardscape jobs like retaining walls that they had put in themselves and it failed after only a year or two or something like that. But they all seem to think they know more than the block mfg. and the folks who install those blocks for a living. One that really sticks in my mind is from almost 19 years ago. This old boy had designed his own job and figured up a materials list using Alan Block. All I was to do was to provide the muscle and know how to get the job done. After a brief discussion with the home owner I laid out the job and got started. Well, he was not happy after I got my first coarse in. Wasnt the shape and corners he wanted. I tried to explain to him that we had to work within the parameters of how the block was designed to be used. Nope he says I want it like this and it should work he says. O.K. says I but you just stand right here and see what I am doing Mr. No it all. He just didnt understand that with those blocks you either had a 45° corner or you used a radius that would allow for a solid wall when you got to the last coarse which in this case was only 5 foot high. To make short story long, after I wasted 4 hours labor on his dime and ruined at that time was about $1000 worth of block He finally got the message and went into his mansion and left me and my guy's alone for the next couple of days. He did have me come back to do more work for him every year after that until he died. And he left me alone to do my job too.
Moral of this story? Send 'em to school, buy 'em books all ya want but Common sense goes a long ways.
And in case any one is wunderin, ask me no questions, I'll tell ya no lies. If you ever get hit with a bucket of chit, ya better close yer eyes.

 

It's called "paralysis by analysis"!!!!

 

Yes, I am trained as an engineer. Can't skip the details; as the old adage says, "The devil is in the details." As for drywall, yes, I can do that, worked for a short while when I got out of school as a carpenter's helper. I know how to hang doors as well, plumbing, etc. I know the engineering jokes if you want to post a few

I may post the glass retainers as a job since I don't really have the means. I have seen some of the work you guys do fabricating and it is fantastic work.

 

Not all engineers are like that. This is the way it works: I want this to look like this and function this way and the engineer makes it happen. Maybe John Deer engineers think you take something designed to look and function one way and make it look and function a different way but that is not what engineering is about. There is a post here where a member designed and built a wood splitter; that is what engineering is about. Usually engineering is broken down in levels but in this case the member was the designer and implementer all in one.

 

I was thinking today <watch out, she is thinking> on why ESW thought the new glass retainers was the way to go on reducing costs; if that is the reason for the poorly designed glass retainers. Look at the glass retainers that was posted for the 30-NC. If they want to reduce the cost, leave off the blower and sell only the decent blower as an extra. I never run the blower, too noisy on the high setting and it just doesn't move that much air. I would have gladly done without the $100.00 blower for a better glass retainer system. The difference in the 30-NC glass retainer and the Madison certainly reduces the manufacturing costs; and that is important. As a business person myself that use to build computer systems, I understand about reducing costs so that you can reduce prices and encourage sales. However, I think they really went too far on the Madison glass retainer. I am still talking with ESW on this because I want to see the Madison's issues addressed. Customer feedback is how you improve products.