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Figuring out face cord of wood by log pile?

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  1. md1tzel

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    Have a pretty big pile of logs would like to try to figure out how many cord is there. The pile is nearly stacked 12' logs 6' high about 150' long have a guy that would like to buy it all just don't know how to figure it out so it is fair for both of us. Was thinkin about taking the demensions of a log truck and converting it that way Any help would be appreciated
     
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    323 face cord give or take.
     
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    Pictures would help significantly. Are the logs straight? Are the ends supported by something or does the height taper off toward the end? Is there any rot on either the bottom logs or on the inside of the logs? How long have the logs been sitting there? Perhaps you could sell by the cord or by the ton and measure each truckload as it departs. That way there's less risk to both sides depending if the estimate is too high or too low.
     
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    firewood cord calculator in resources tab...
     
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  5. md1tzel

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    They are tops no rot cut 6 months ago Have no way to weigh truck loads plan on selling wood by the cord this guy want to buy what I have in logs now and is a buddy
     
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    If he is a buddy of yours and will cut it and truck it himself, agree on a price per cord and let him pay you as he cuts and hauls it away. Agree to the volume of his truck and have him fill it the same way each time. If I was buying it, I wouldn't want to pay more than about $60-75 per cord (assuming its all hardwood) if I was doing all the cutting and hauling myself. Around me a 6-7 cord log truck would be about $125 per cord dropped in the front yard. If he's willing to pay for the whole thing up front, I would think it would be reasonable to estimate the volume on the low side. Again, without knowing how straight they are or seeing pictures it's tough to estimate how much you have. Hearing that they are tops makes me think they they aren't so straight.
     
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    170 face cord.
     
  8. Sawdog

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    Well, the math says that 150'x6'x12' = 10,800 / 128 = 84.375 full cords. This is, of course, relative to how neatly stacked it is.
     
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    Yes it does but in practice, it never works out that way. Piled up is usually more of a triangular shape so this must be taken into consideration. Most times one can look at a pile of logs and on the width, rather than taking the whole width, take off half of the slanted part and it will be close. (Hope that made sense.) Like say the stack is 8' high and from the top to bottom it measures out 8'. In that case you would call it 4' wide on the edge rather than 8' wide.
     
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    average height x average width x average length divided by 180=cords. (divide by 3 to get face cords.)

    I understand 180 cubic feet of piled wood (not stacked) is equal to a cord
    (as apposed to 128 cubic feet of stacked wood = 1 cord)
     
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    Yup I agree.

    If the logs are stacked and the #'s are right your calculation is spot on. Around here that would be worth $8,437 @ $100 cord. Roughly 7-8 loads.
     
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    $100 a cord on the landing or delivered?
     
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    Delivered. However you may have a hard time finding a logger/trucker to fill the order.
     
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    Sounds like this one is on the landing. Without including trucking, $100 a cord might be a little high IMHO. Not sure of the marketability of tops and whether or not someone could put them on a processer. I still think $60-75 a cord is a reasonable price for both parties. If the buyer was to pay for all up front, he may want to go a little lower than that. Dealing with a single buyer for that much wood is, in my opinion, easier than trying to get a higher price per cord but with multiple buyers. Without a buyer, that wood will just rot in place.
     
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    At 100/cord delivered I'd go for something like 60-70 and let your friend arrange the trucking. 12' is an odd length to fit on a truck. All the ones I have dealt with have a 20' bed. If the loader is on the rear two courses of 12' logs will not fit at all. If the loader is on front the trucker might not want to have a load hanging off the back either. And if your landing isn't hardened off and road accessible then its a completely different story also.
     
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    The market is going to be small since few have access to log trucks with grapples. Second when loggers sell culls, it's a secondary goal and my logger friends don't do much of it since they are after putting premium hardwood on the landing and selling to the mills. Hopefully a percentage will make veneer grade.

    When loggers sell culls, they have zero zip nada invested so to sell the pile in the OP situation, they are going to have to deal with a trucker and not a logger who has a market and a truck. Then the price he is going to offer is going to be a fraction of what the delivered $100/cord price will be.
     
  17. md1tzel

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    Thanks for all the advice I'm doing all the hauling with a smaller dump truck that's why it's in 12' lengths around here seems like $40/ cord in logs is about going rate $80-$100 split have so much wood I'll get rid of it either way some guys won't pay to have it split
     
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    Wow. $40 / cord is super cheap for prices around me. I could get 8 years of wood for $3200 (with my math) or $400 a year. Delivered. Wish we lived closer.
     
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    Ditto x 2
     
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    Since you asked about face cords I have to ask. 40 for a face cord or a full cord? 40 for full cord and I'll ask you where you are located. :D
     
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